Aussie Pro Rugby
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@Kruse said in Aussie Rugby:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Aussie Rugby:
I've only seen this clearly edited version of events, but....
- Seemed drunk
- He'd landed on one message he wanted to portray, and even with a journalist asking the most positive possible question in the world, ended up forgetting/spinning it to that one message
- Kinda like... a drunk
- I don't like to brag... but I'm quite qualified to judge on this
Disclaimer: Can't be arsed watching any full 20-minute version of things to see it all in context.
That's not the modern way. I have seen an edited twitter-version, and judged on that.If I was to guess at the total 20-minute version, there was probably a shit-ton of negative questions beforehand, and he only lost the plot near the end? Even so... some pretty thin skin, or lightweight drinker, to get rattled that badly.
Agree, he was halfway to smashing David Boons record before even boarding the plane
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@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:
@foobaNZ said in Aussie Rugby:
To be fair I thought some of the follow up questions around Quade were a bit stupid, that seemed to be the tipping point where he started getting annoyed at genuine questions.
I do think Aussie are going to go well at the WC to be honest. I can see them getting to semis then who knows? One game away from a final.
Wales, Fiji then Argentina - what a rails run
No guarantee of beating any of them.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
pfffft hahaha what the fuck???
Basically, pick anything related to rugby league and Eddie's all over it.
And, TBH, why not? Rugby Union in Australia has no fucking idea what it is doing.
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@Nepia said in Aussie Rugby:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
yes
turned down the Dragons job, was supposed to be Craig Bellamy's successor.
Now he's a rugby attack coach apparently.
I didn't know he was coaching. That AFL dude has carved out a decent rugby coaching career so maybe he'll do ok?
Mick Byrne? Been doing it for a few decades now though ... learnt his trade.
Edwards and Farrell doing OK though
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
Shit getting real in Aussie Women's Rugby today
Can’t argue with any of that
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Paid the same? No
Treated the same? Yes
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There's one simple fact, a fucking huge elephant in the room, being ignored here: The ARU has limited funds to subsidize a portion of the game which isn't revenue neutral and given the parlous state of their finances, all endeavours must go to maximising the elements that does bring in the cash in the short term.
Not that I'm suggesting they're doing a marvellous job of it from my distant vantage point.
Or the team could go cap in hand to Gina...
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I do wonder about the reasoning. I understand the ARU has limited funds, but I firmly believe that without decent investment the women's game will wither and die, and also believe women's rugby is by the best chance of growth in the game. I think the money that legue and AFL isn't a revenue neutral situation, but it sure as shit will be assisting those game to grow. Even myseld a grumpy old bugger who never used to think that women's game was worthwhile can see these things.
And when I had a business most of the things I paid for (tools, adverts etc) etc I bought cost me a bit of money and I didn't get to see a return until down the track a bit! Players in academies etc generally a on contract without pulling in cash. I think the 2 things here, investment in future, and don't promise things a (ie pro contracts etc) and then not deliver? -
I don't believe that it will ever be revenue positive. Certainly not if the same standards are applied between the national teams.
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@gt12 yeah there's this massive disconnect where we're told that women's sport deserves support, but this comes from people who aren't prepared to do so themselves. Men don't watch because they've already got their sport and women generally don't watch sport. Female AFL, NFL, NRL, soccer, rugby, basketball, etc. I can't see how that can develop sustainably.
Just look at netball - huge participation, very poor support.
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Agreed.
IMO (and of course this is a generalization), the key difference is that people (men) will demand sport (men’s rugby, men’s footy) as part of the household spend but won’t for the same female sports, and female members won’t demand it.
Both may support it if it is on, so the FTA route and ad-supported looks the best model to me. Perhaps sky can bundle it up because people will watch it when their more preferred sports are on.
However, more sport is more sport. I’m not sure that greater penetration with an entertaining but lesser product really works.
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@gt12 said in Aussie Rugby:
However, more sport is more sport.
Yep, particularly for Cricket it doubles the amount avialalbe. Which is awesome. Provided the quality is reasonable - and that means you have to invest in the players, give them practice time, skills, gym, coaching, nutrition, etc.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
Worth noting that ARU have heavily subsidised Women's 7s, just not 15s. Which was a fair decision at the time but probably needs some re-assessment now.
Agreed, but even then: 7s can run on a fairly lean budget because you're looking for a certain type of player you can bring up to speed - even nabbing them from another sport (the irony). Doesn't need much below that in terms of regular competition.
Also winning and Olympic medal helps.
Getting 15s going requries a much larger investment to get right. Requires working structures below it at a couple of levels, and SuperW is all we have right now, with very amateur feeder systems below that. If we want to be good, that isn't enough.
As with men's rugby, most of the starting XV for any women's rugby team in Australia is a potential target for NRLW, which seeks to grow. It can pull from its own development systems but could take the easy option and raid our ranks to get the competition running.
