Aussie Pro Rugby
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
That article is pretty ridiculous.
She was clearly asked in an interview if the Folau saga had an effect on the team. And her answer was correct - it certainly wasn't helpful!
But that is a long, long way from blaming him for their demise.
That was my take too.
In much the same vein the original headline was Phil Waugh UNLOADS on Cheika, except he really just answers a question
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Nov 6 (Reuters) - Rugby Australia (RA) said on Wednesday it has appointed a panel to review the Wallabies 2019 season, which saw coach Michael Cheika stand down after their World Cup quarter-final defeat to England.
The panel will consist of former Australia internationals Pat Howard and Nathan Sharpe, and four-time Olympian Bo Hanson, and will work with RA Director of Rugby Scott Johnson to deliver the review over the next month. It had been tasked with reviewing the entire Wallabies program and World Cup campaign and delivering feedback that will be used for the 2020 international season and future Rugby World Cup and Olympic Games campaigns, RA said.
Pat Howard eh?
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@Bovidae The same Pat Howard that oversaw Australian cricket's low ebb? The same one Warney called a muppet?
Why he seems a perfect announcement from RA.
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@antipodean Exactly what I was thinking.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
The same Pat Howard that oversaw Australian cricket's low ebb? The same one Warney called a muppet?
Why he seems a perfect announcement from RA.
Crazy
I mentioned his name a couple of weeks ago as a joke
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@NTA and @barbarian and any other Aussie TSF members:
There was a time not so long ago where as a Saffa I was extremely jealous of Australian rugby administration.
With a relatively small base of players, Aussie rugby somehow managed to produce excellent results both in Super Rugby and at international level.
The Brumbies back in their glory days were the epitome of this for me.What, if anything has changed?
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@Billy-Webb said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA and @barbarian and any other Aussie TSF members:
There was a time not so long ago where as a Saffa I was extremely jealous of Australian rugby administration.
With a relatively small base of players, Aussie rugby somehow managed to produce excellent results both in Super Rugby and at international level.
The Brumbies back in their glory days were the epitome of this for me.What, if anything has changed?
People who entered into the administrative sphere of Rugby under the auspices of an all-time Wallaby Greats lineup?
Don't honestly know, besides that. Take away onfield performance and everyone in the back office looks like a dickhead, don't they?
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@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:
I worked with him for some time. He is a really good guy. Gets on with everyone, always had time to spend with the juniors. Massive rolodex, can get in front of any CEO in the country (any rugby playing nation I expect). Had a great time with him and clients at the 2011 RWC.
He's certainly not dumb, with no long history in finance he was able to understand different products and communicate with clients. As for being qualified to be a corporate CEO, I'm not sure. Expect he would need a solid team around him, especially around risk and ops functions.
His on-camera persona is a bit at odds with all that I know. I think some of it is caused by genuine passion from a bloke that loved nothing more than competing for his country. And some of it is just a love of winding people up and being a bit controversial.
I'd suggest you take his comments with a grain of salt, they're probably not always reflective of what he is actually thinking.
I don't have any personal experience with him but I do know this.
In 2017 I was catching up with a good mate in the US. He's a proper Brisbane grammar school boy, died in the wool Wallaby supporter, thinks NZ are cheats etc - standard Aus private school view. Anyway, he was just back from his sisters wedding - she had married a producer at Fox Sports in Oz.
Said that Kearns is a Grade A fluffybunny. Everybody at Fox hates him, has such a massive opinion of himself, and loves to belittle others - no matter how small or large it is.
SEcond hand info, but I have no reason to doubt it and quite the opposite of what you said. Still, could make him a decent CEO tho!
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@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:
@MajorRage Interesting!
To be fair he’s a Queenslander as is his brother in law do already done blue / red rivalry there
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@Billy-Webb said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA and @barbarian and any other Aussie TSF members:
There was a time not so long ago where as a Saffa I was extremely jealous of Australian rugby administration.
With a relatively small base of players, Aussie rugby somehow managed to produce excellent results both in Super Rugby and at international level.
The Brumbies back in their glory days were the epitome of this for me.What, if anything has changed?
We responded far better than others to the advent of professionalism. Our high performance set-up was a decade ahead of where some other nations were.
And then everyone else caught up. And now it's largely a level playing field, and we are exposed because of our smaller player base.
The biggest errors were made after the 2003 World Cup, when the ARU was cashed up and the future looked bright. We squandered the millions and focussed too heavily on the professional game.
There's still a feeling that we can reclaim the success of previous eras, but there's a large part of our base that have their heads still stuck in 1999 - where power was largely housed in NSW and QLD clubs, we spun it wiiiiide and won world cups for fun.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@Bovidae The same Pat Howard that oversaw Australian cricket's low ebb? The same one Warney called a muppet?
The verdict on Pat Howard in cricketing circles has turned around a bit with the World Cup overperformance and the Ashes victory.
I'm not necessarily advocating for his appointment, but he has his admirers in the cricketing world.
And I'd think being called a muppet by Warney probably makes you more employable...
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
the World Cup overperformance
the what?
Turnaround is probably the better word. Our ODI performance was rubbish over the four year period, but we came good at the World Cup.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
@Billy-Webb said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA and @barbarian and any other Aussie TSF members:
There was a time not so long ago where as a Saffa I was extremely jealous of Australian rugby administration.
With a relatively small base of players, Aussie rugby somehow managed to produce excellent results both in Super Rugby and at international level.
The Brumbies back in their glory days were the epitome of this for me.What, if anything has changed?
We responded far better than others to the advent of professionalism. Our high performance set-up was a decade ahead of where some other nations were.
And then everyone else caught up. And now it's largely a level playing field, and we are exposed because of our smaller player base.
The biggest errors were made after the 2003 World Cup, when the ARU was cashed up and the future looked bright. We squandered the millions and focussed too heavily on the professional game.
There's still a feeling that we can reclaim the success of previous eras, but there's a large part of our base that have their heads still stuck in 1999 - where power was largely housed in NSW and QLD clubs, we spun it wiiiiide and won world cups for fun.
I wonder how much they squandered on league players in the early 2000s?
