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    @jegga said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    So which is the real Kearns ? The one that behaves like an arsehole whenever a camera is nearby or the one that knows HR is looking over his shoulder at work ?

    I think that's a pretty ridiculous thing to suggest.

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    The problem with Kearns and the CEO appointment was that his supporters weren't pumping up his tyres because of his business credentials... it was because he's a 'good rugby man'.

    Apparently if you've never been at the bottom of a ruck you are somehow unqualified to manage Rugby Australia, or understand anything about the game.

    It's a ridiculous philosophy that is firmly stuck in the 1980s.

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    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    It's a ridiculous philosophy that is firmly stuck in the 1980s.

    that, right there, could be above the doors of Rugby Australia

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    It's a ridiculous philosophy that is firmly stuck in the 1980s.

    that, right there, could be above the doors of Rugby Australia

    Mission statement

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    JON is having a crack at all and sundry, too, apparently.

    I can imagine it now: "The board and executive are responsible for not having an all-time great lineup and coach like I stumbled into"

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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    JON is having a crack at all and sundry, too, apparently.

    I can imagine it now: "The board and executive are responsible for not having an all-time great lineup and coach like I stumbled into"

    everyone is having a pile on. It's pathetic. Most of it is hugely self serving.

    There is blood in the water.

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    @mariner4life Problem with Ozzie rugby there should have been blood in the water a while ago!

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    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @jegga said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    So which is the real Kearns ? The one that behaves like an arsehole whenever a camera is nearby or the one that knows HR is looking over his shoulder at work ?

    I think that's a pretty ridiculous thing to suggest.

    So the jackass in front of the camera. Sweet.

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    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @jegga said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    So which is the real Kearns ? The one that behaves like an arsehole whenever a camera is nearby or the one that knows HR is looking over his shoulder at work ?

    I think that's a pretty ridiculous thing to suggest.

    New to the Fern, you aren't.

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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @jegga said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    So which is the real Kearns ? The one that behaves like an arsehole whenever a camera is nearby or the one that knows HR is looking over his shoulder at work ?

    I think that's a pretty ridiculous thing to suggest.

    New to the Internet,you aren't.

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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    JON is having a crack at all and sundry, too, apparently.

    I can imagine it now: "The board and executive are responsible for not having an all-time great lineup and coach like I stumbled into"

    His second time in charge was not much better if at all

    Has David Moffatts name been bought up yet?

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    JON is having a crack at all and sundry, too, apparently.

    I can imagine it now: "The board and executive are responsible for not having an all-time great lineup and coach like I stumbled into"

    everyone is having a pile on. It's pathetic. Most of it is hugely self serving.

    There is blood in the water.

    They're is ALWAYS blood in the water, because you can't avoid it when there are so many shining examples of the wrong end of the Dunning-Kruger scale coming out of the Rugby system

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    Interesting that this is a review in to the "disasterous" World Cup campaign only.

    Isn't that a bit of a bullshit focus?

    How would you even go about it? Cheika openly relies very little on systems, structure or delegation. If questioned on anything as part of a review there is every reason to think he will be massively defensive.

    The review into 2015 must be a quality read.

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    @rotated said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    Interesting that this is a review in to the "disasterous" World Cup campaign only.

    Isn't that a bit of a bullshit focus?

    How would you even go about it? Cheika openly relies very little on systems, structure or delegation. If questioned on anything as part of a review there is every reason to think he will be massively defensive.

    The review into 2015 must be a quality read.

    The point was about whether you'd consider it a disaster in terms of performance, when a QF exit was the most probable outcome.

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    @voodoo So what's his end game with playing the fool on TV then? I genuinely don't understand why someone would willingly choose to come across looking like an squealing idiot when they're not.

    Also, sadly, my only interaction with him he was a bit of a dick, but that was a long time ago.

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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    The point was about whether you'd consider it a disaster in terms of performance, when a QF exit was the most probable outcome.

    If the conclusion is that it wasn't a disaster then you may as well pack up and call it a day.

    Outside of 2015 all the pro-era RWC winners came from losing quarter finalists who did a whole lot of self reflection. This years winner well may not have even made the pool stage.

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    @Nepia Shit I dunno man. We don't work together anymore so haven't spoken to him in years. He is a larrikin at heart, I suspect he's just enjoying himself. One thing to remember I guess is that he is never going to be unemployed in this country. Never. So he's probably not too forward-thinking in terms of making sure he is developing as a broadcaster and saying the right things. Its just another paying gig for him.

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    @rotated said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    If the conclusion is that it wasn't a disaster then you may as well pack up and call it a day.

    The broader discussion is about whether Australian Rugby still can be considered - even by itself - a Tier 1 Nation given the last 2 decades of decline.

    So, yes.

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    @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @Nepia Shit I dunno man. We don't work together anymore so haven't spoken to him in years. He is a larrikin at heart, I suspect he's just enjoying himself. One thing to remember I guess is that he is never going to be unemployed in this country. Never. So he's probably not too forward-thinking in terms of making sure he is developing as a broadcaster and saying the right things. Its just another paying gig for him.

    I don't care about him saying anti-establishment things, and pushing buttons etc, that's all fine, but he just straight up says dumb shit sometimes (all well and good for us lot on the Fern but not so much when you're supposed to be providing expert commentary on the box).

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    @Nepia said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @voodoo So what's his end game with playing the fool on TV then? I genuinely don't understand why someone would willingly choose to come across looking like an squealing idiot when they're not.

    Also, sadly, my only interaction with him he was a bit of a dick, but that was a long time ago.

    Yep . It’s the same as being an Internet troll and behaving like a normal person offline. Which one is the real you?
    Stephen Jones might be a great person to be mates with but that puerile crap he writes for the papers and on Twitter must come from somewhere.

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