Black Caps in India
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The team insisted on playing spinners cos it supposedly suited the conditions more. They still got hammered. Perhaps they should have gone with their "strengths" ( relatively speaking ) and gone in with the seamers after all ?
Would have helped if Neesham was fit before the third test I suppose, or if Sodhi would kick on...
I see Coriander Son is joining the team for the shorter format games as a batsman only.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps in India:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps in India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps in India:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps in India:
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps in India:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps in India:
The great work of 2014/15 is slowly but surely unravelling...
Yeah, for all of Baz's flaws as a player it's not so much his leadership we are missing, but the huge fucking hole he has left at number 5. So much pressure on Kane and Rosco (who is hopelessly out of form) to score the bulk of the runs with one dodgy opener and a weak as piss tail.
This series was always going to be tough, and mentally as much as anything losing the toss in every fucking test put us behind the 8 ball. Don't forget the exact same thing happened to SA recently and they are a pretty handy team.
Once the boys get home for the summer I'm confident we'll put some good perfomances on the board. I already picked up tickets to take the boy to the ODI vs Aussie on Auckland Anniversary day so I hope they'd better find some form before then!
No excuse for the weak tail, every single bloke can hold a bat, our number 11 has a test 50 and is a very good hitter for a slight guy.
As for number 5 is it time to see what J Ryder is up to ?
At the same time as seeing how much of a difference Jeetan Pat... oh...
Well they were happy to use Luke Ronchi there and he's hardly the future.....
And are we happy with the choices that "Macca" and Hesson are making? I though Ronchi made a good go at being asked to bat five and not keep, but it highlighted that Nicholls isnt' making the step up.
On the whole, we always have to make at least one tough selection choice for the bowlers, but for the batsmen we're struggling to find six of them
And are we happy ewith
The team insisted on playing spinners cos it supposedly suited the conditions more. They still got hammered. Perhaps they should have gone with their "strengths" ( relatively speaking ) and gone in with the seamers after all ?
That's John Wright's theory.
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Wasn't the first test with 3 spinners NZs best test?
And considering how shit we are first test of an away series normally that effort probably deserves an OBE and double icc ranking points.
Should have stuck to his guns .....
Ok, it was mainly Wagner bouncing them out.
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The last few years, back when we were good. Has really shown me how much fun cricket can be when your team can bat. Even though I enjoyed the Southee and Boult show.
I gave this series a wide berth as a viewer. While I was interested in seeing how our spinners would go in spinning conditions but v good players of spin, it wasn't enough for me to give a f&@k .
No batting, no point.
This coming from someone who hates fuckibg batsmen.
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps in India:
You have to wonder what Craig McMillan offers to the side these days besides fuck all.
You mean this guy coaching batting against spin?
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@Siam said in Black Caps in India:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps in India:
You have to wonder what Craig McMillan offers to the side these days besides fuck all.
You mean this guy coaching batting against spin?
Exactly, what could possibly go wrong?
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A big bit of the "we were good a couple of years ago!" misses the point we looked a million bucks playing India in NZ. Where they have been awful forever. We are not playing India in NZ now. India destroyed Aussie (who 4-0'd us last year) & SA (who just raped us). Its not like this is a shock. Drop Baz in at 5 I'm not sold he'd have scored any more than Ronchi, his last tour there (2012) he was shit.
That golden age was a terrible fucking Windies team in NZ, India who are terrible on tour, in NZ, an England in disarray in NZ (and we couldn't beat them), and a superb away win v the Pakistanis thatnks to a Baz special, but in a game where no one seemed to want to play or know if they were allowed to bowl short or fast or WTF was going on.
There's a lot of fucking delusion ahead of this series. There was talk re Wagner being fastest kiwi to 100 wickets.. we are still waiting, Kane v Kolhi no contest!!! Too fucking right, Jadaja scored the same number of runs as Kane etc...
I agree re Macca, I have less idea WTF he is doing there than I had what Dimi Masacaranas was doing coaching the quicks..
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps in India:
According to gollum's recent reports Ryder's form has fallen away. I wouldn't want him picked again anyway.
Yeah, axed by Essex for being shithouse. Adored by all at the club, but just not any good anymore
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Kane v Kohli is still no contest regardless of the results. Kane shits all over Kohli in tests, and one big score at home doesn't change that.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps in India:
Kane v Kohli is still no contest regardless of the results. Kane shits all over Kohli in tests, and one big score at home doesn't change that.
I agree, I think Kane is a better test batsman, but the vibe on here was Kane was going to show Kohli up in this series.
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@gollum said in Black Caps in India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps in India:
Kane v Kohli is still no contest regardless of the results. Kane shits all over Kohli in tests, and one big score at home doesn't change that.
I agree, I think Kane is a better test batsman, but the vibe on here was Kane was going to show Kohli up in this series.
The life of a Black Caps fan is full of optimism followed by heartbreak. That shit is par for the course. But, Kane outplaying Kohli was actually a pretty logical conclusion to draw given their records. Kohli will probably score 5x tons in the 5 ODIs though.
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I see that everyone's favourite Sikh (Harbhajan) is critical of the doctored pitches India have used at home in the last few years because he didn't get to play on such spinner-friendly pitches. He really is a dickhead.
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@Bovidae said in Black Caps in India:
I see that everyone's favourite Sikh (Harbhajan) is critical of the doctored pitches India have used at home in the last few years because he didn't get to play on such spinner-friendly pitches. He really is a dickhead.
Especially when it was pointed out to him that Kolkata was actually a seaming pitch. He was a great player, but a fucking moron. The press conference was great, they quoted him & Kohli got his tail up & went "WHO SAID THAT!" & they went "Harby" & he went "oh, fine, next".
He was just about to go off then they pointed out he'd be beating up the special needs kid.
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@gollum said in Black Caps in India:
@Bovidae said in Black Caps in India:
I see that everyone's favourite Sikh (Harbhajan) is critical of the doctored pitches India have used at home in the last few years because he didn't get to play on such spinner-friendly pitches. He really is a dickhead.
Especially when it was pointed out to him that Kolkata was actually a seaming pitch. He was a great player, but a fucking moron. The press conference was great, they quoted him & Kohli got his tail up & went "WHO SAID THAT!" & they went "Harby" & he went "oh, fine, next".
He was just about to go off then they pointed out he'd be beating up the special needs kid.
Remember when he got TWO consecutive centuries against the BCs in 2010 ? I just about gave up on the fuckers there and then from memory.....
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I'm beginning to think the toss is rigged in India... at least it doesn't mean as much in the ODIs.
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Lol 48/5, I'm out.
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Increasingly looks like the only thing Mike Hesson has got right in his tenure was appointing Baz captain.
Lucky for Hesson's sake it turned out to be a big thing. Shame then that Baz had to retire..
