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@Bones he does seem to be a genuine GC.
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@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:
@Bones he does seem to be a genuine GC.
Smart too.
Read an article he wrote on the current difficulties with VAR in soccer and he absolutely nailed the problems.
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@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:
@Bones he does seem to be a genuine GC.
Yep. I have mentioned before but I went and saw him speak at AKL Grammar school.
Being the only gay in the village was tough on him before he came out. Was an attempted suicide, etc but seems like a really together guy now and yes, @Victor-Meldrew , smart too.
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I'm watching Kobe Kobelco Steelers v Canon Eagles on Sky Sport 1.
Quite cool to see all those NZ players on the field again, even if it's in Japan and although it's mostly in the Kobe team (5 Brodie Retallick, 6 Tom Franklin, 10 Dan Carter, 12 Richard Buckman, 14 Fraser Anderson, 22 Andy Ellis etc).
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@Machpants It finished fifty points to sixteen in favour of Dan Carter's team, Carter helping himself to about twenty of those, if that is any help.
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@Machpants Kobe was good; Canon Eagles only in patches. It kind of reminded me of watching preseason games in NZ. Not the best rugby, but still entertaining. A mix of players you know and players you don't know.
Apart from one try, none of Kobe's points were scored by Japanese players ...
I think games played between teams with fewer non-Japanese players and an equal number of non-Japanese players, will tell us more about rugby in Japan.Sky broadcasts only one game live per weekend and I don't know how they decide which game they'll show. Tbh, I was only watching to see the Kiwis play, but will probably watch the game each week regardless of the number of Kiwis, just to be able to form an opinion.
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@Machpants How many worst games ever can one referee have I wonder?
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@Machpants said in NH club rugby:
@Stargazer Ta, I've not really watched any but might try and catch one.
'We 'ave a deal, non?'
After the 2019 WC, any Scottish side complaining about anything falls on my deaf ears.
Both of them.
Very heavily.
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So, it looks like both Julian Savea and Isaia Toeava will be looking for a new club ...
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@Stargazer Clermont fans are really upset that Ice is not getting re-signed.
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@Dice said in NH club rugby:
@Stargazer Clermont fans are really upset that Ice is not getting re-signed.
Can't blame them. I wonder if Leon MacDonald has been on the phone. I certainly would be.
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Saracens face automatic relegation unless they can meet salary-cap requirements
Saracens are facing automatic relegation from the Premiership if they fail to meet the salary cap this season. The club are under increasing pressure, following a PRL board meeting on Tuesday, to prove they are within the £7m-pound limit for this season. In November the Premiership champions were docked 35 points and fined £5.3m for breaching the cap for the past three seasons. Speculation has since remained over whether or not they can avoid a breech for the current campaign, given the number of international players in their squad. It is understood that the other Premiership clubs are demanding Saracens now prove they are within budget or face relegation.
Wales full-back Liam Williams will leave Saracens this summer to rejoin Scarlets but director of rugby Mark McCall has admitted he could leave sooner to get his salary off the books. Asked if Williams could join Scarlets before the end of the season, McCall said: "I'd say there is a possibility. "It was Liam's decision first up that he was going to go back to the Scarlets, back to Wales, and that was for family reasons. "We understood that completely and we don't regret him, and he doesn't regret, coming to Saracens. We don't regret bringing him to Saracens, he has been brilliant. "He was always going to go back to Wales regardless of the salary-cap decision." England international Alex Lozowski is another player who will become a free agent at the end of the season but he intends to see out his contract.
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@Stargazer Crazy situation is that any payments they make to players as compensation for early termination are included in the salary cap - good luck with that then!
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Saracen's accountants couldn't work their magic and therefore they will be relegated at the end of the season.
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Amazing they got away with it for so long. It's been pretty obvious for a while that their roster is bloated. A lot of it is home grown talent, but that doesn't help. Apparently 2 million over a 7 million cap, not like it's a small overspend - totally cynical and it worked for them getting the titles
Really England should put in a much lower cap, no foreign stars outside of cap, and players that are from their own academy should be exempt from the cap
In addition Leicester, London Irish, and Wasps can continue to be utterly shit without pressure 🤣
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@Stargazer said in NH club rugby:
@Dice Yes, he's been good. It's disappointing, although I understand the need for rejuvenation of an aging squad.
You hear quite a few Clermont players say he's the best player they've ever played with, which is crazy to me, because Fofana is pretty awesome.
I think the wingers will miss him the most.
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Kobe Yamaha game is pretty good fun, BBBR was sort of phoning it in early but suddenly produced a cracking run to score right now.
Carter is still so classy - he’s old, but he’s done well against the Yamaha rush - stepped the rusher a few times, kicked a couple, and now they have more space. God I miss him.
Bucky looking a bit out of sorts.
The first Yamaha try was a cracker too - there is a bit more space and It’s less collision focused so it’s quite a good watch.
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His team Red Hurricanes lost, but great to see Lincoln McClutchie make his Top League debut and score his first points.
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Confirmed: Saracens to be relegated at the end of season for salary cap breaches.
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@sparky said in NH club rugby:
Confirmed: Saracens to be relegated at the end of season for salary cap breaches.
Lions and England players will be told to leave club.
First bit is confirmed, second bit not. Farrell had said he'll stay, allegedly.
Interestingly they aren't supposed to be relegated until the following session, accordin the rules. But they took relegation for this upcoming season rather than open their books
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@mofitzy_ said in NH club rugby:
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Any NZers playing?Yes, Kieran Read and - unknown to me - NZ born Jamie Henry for Toyota and Sam Whitelock and (former Highlander prop) Craig Millar for Panasonic.
Toyota lost 20 to 40 to Panasonic.
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For whoever is interested:
Highlights Yamaha Jubilo v Kobelco Steelers:
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Can’t wait to see what happens next season with respect to coverage of Saracens. Media is very very split.
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The interesting thing about the Sarries saga is that they had a choice of opening the books or relegation. They chose relegation.
Now the next tier is not that strong, especially once Newcastle move up and no doubt Sarries are going to take the cost hit for a year in the wilderness. My guess is that they have 'arrangements' for key players to stay. -
There is no salary cap in the second division, so they could keep them all for next year. But they won't be let back into premiership without proof of cap compliance
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Haha
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@taniwharugby ok I'm being seriously dim, but I don't really understand why it's funny?
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@Bones .you have $10 to build your team, all those players cost more than you have...sarries have spent more than thier $10 to build thier team...
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@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:
@Bones .you have $10 to build your team, all those players cost more than you have...sarries have spent more than thier $10 to build thier team...
Ahh ok. I thought there was a hidden joke.
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In amongst Liverpool/Man Yoo & Spurs this story has some currency at work today!
Although, as is the way in Britain, the media are trying to be the story. Apparently Walrus has been going full nuts on all 'n sundry who are sullying the great name of Saracens. Paul Williams, who is probably the most neutral, calm, balanced reporter in the business has apparently had legal action threatened on him by Jones!! If you have a look at his twitter timeline, it basically confirms this (he doesn't name SJ, but its never denied either when every response is basically saying it's him). Jones has essentially nailed his colours to the mast 100% that this just a other clubs conspiracy against them. And of course, he has his sources but needs to ensure his legal team is fine before he goes public etc.
The whole thing is really quite unbelievable.
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@Stargazer He was lucky that old grey dude didn't give him another ongoing concussion.
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