Gaming/VR
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Okay - been meaning to ask you nerds for a while... but scanning the thread, it seems the short-answer is "yes"...
- VR - worth it?
- Coming into winter, living in a new place with no-mates - figured it would be a good toy with some slight exercise while hibernating
- I actually tried to "pull the trigger" on the Vive Focus Vision when there was a PreOrder special a couple of weeks ago - but after several attempts, it refused to accept my payment, so I took that as "a sign" - not meant to be - do some more research before committing to something so pricey, you dumb fluffybunny. Spend the money on a trip back to NZ for summer instead.
The reason I settled on that one, BTW - was mostly via bias-confirmation during my research...
- I don't have a playstation, so ruling out that
- Refuse to buy any Apple products - so they're out
- MetaQuest - I just shy away from those for some reason... although I understand they're cheap/cheerful - and probably a sensible option for entry into the whole concept
- I like the idea of "inside-out" rather than base stations, but still want 'full-room-VR'... to open up that "exercise via nerd-gaming" area
- Don't really like the idea of having a wire from PC to the headset
- But with the Vive - it seems a perfect combo of being able to go standalone, or PC-over-wifi, or tethered-to-PC if I decide the tethering is worth it for the latency/quality uptick in some cases
What am I wrong about? (Bearing in mind - I've probably read everything already in reviews - and... my bias-confirmation is strong.)
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@Kruse I'm kind of biased as I tried VR and didn't love it. It seems quite gimmicky.
My suggestion: play games on a gaming thing - PC, console whatever - and get a Concept2 Rowing machine. Folds up small (ish) and you will get brutalised ... and you can spend your rowing time watching sport/movies/tv/video while you exercise.
If you buy second hand, you can almost guarnatee you won't lose money on resale (based on NZ and UK experience).
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I think its worth it. The biggest issue is the rate of new releases
The success of the Quest also pushed the releases towards being smaller
I started with a PSVR 1 years ago, then got a windows headset (samsung) which is quite out of date now. I'll upgrade when there's more software releases I'm interested in
You'll have a few years worth of releases to catch up on so it shouldn't be too much of an issue
Have you tried VR for at least 10mins before? Some people struggle with motion sickness. I believe that has improved with better refresh rates
Driving games are surprisingly immersive (looking over your shoulder etc). Horror games can be intense.
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@Kruse I'm kind of biased as I tried VR and didn't love it. It seems quite gimmicky.
My suggestion: play games on a gaming thing - PC, console whatever - and get a Concept2 Rowing machine. Folds up small (ish) and you will get brutalised ... and you can spend your rowing time watching sport/movies/tv/video while you exercise.
If you buy second hand, you can almost guarnatee you won't lose money on resale (based on NZ and UK experience).
Yeah - that's exactly what I used to do... had a rowing machine in UK, and would watch shitty TV shows while smashing it.
But - when I tried the same in NZ... I never got back into the routine, and it sat there - used about 6 times in 2 years.
I'm definitely considering a rowing machine here, but I know I've gotten even lazier and less motivated... so looking for an easy option that doesn't need self-discipline. -
Agree with Duluth's question regarding motion sickness. I've got the PSVR 2 and was blown away with how 'real' some of the games appear. But within 20 minutes I was in a cold sweat and had to turn it off. Then felt like I was hungover for the rest of the day. My daughter plays and doesn't suffer any motion sickness. I think you can train yourself to handle it better but I just haven't bothered. So if I do play, I really limit the time.
Wouldn't recommend a PSVR2 though, even without motion sickness issues. There just aren't enough games being released imo to justify the cost.
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@Kruse were they Concept2? The difference in machine quality is massive - I like it as I can smash out a high intensity row quickly and it keeps a baseline fitness.
Nah - just the not-quite-cheapest shit I could find in each country - while being magnetic resistance so that it was as-quiet-as-possible while I watch shit TV from a laptop in front of me.
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@Kruse were they Concept2? The difference in machine quality is massive - I like it as I can smash out a high intensity row quickly and it keeps a baseline fitness.
Nah - just the not-quite-cheapest shit I could find in each country - while being magnetic resistance so that it was as-quiet-as-possible while I watch shit TV from a laptop in front of me.
cheap rowers are dogshit. Concept2 is the only way - they are good to use. I got into it and it's a great combo of aerobic + resistance training.
The beer, meat, cheese and chips cause me problems - but rowing definitely helps!
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@Kruse I'm massively into VR.
I got the Quest 1 as a gift just prior to Covid lockdowns and haven't looked back. Now have Quest 2, Quest 3 and bought a gaming PC to get at some of the higher graphics titles.Quest 3 is definitely the headset to get to dip your toes in. Great quality visuals our performing other more expensive headsets, great price, wireless and has a huge stand-alone game catalog. You can also link it to a PC either wired or wirelessly if you want to play PCVR games. If you don't mind a little bit of tinkering some super-nerds have created something called an Unreal engine injector which allows you to play hundreds of PC games in VR, you will need a fairly grunty PC for that though.
I don't know a lot about Vive. I've not heard of it being recommended https://www.reddit.com/r/virtualreality/ is a good place to look for advice,
Quest 3 also has colour passthrough which opens up some really interesting mixed reality games and applications. Fighting zombies crashing through your living room window or learning to play piano for example.
VR Sickness is very real for games where you use the controller to move forward, but can be overcome in most cases. Initially I could only do maybe 20 mins playing a first person shooter. The trick is to play with a fan on your face and stopping as soon as you feel even slightly ill, never push through it. Over time your tolerance will build up, I can easily now play for hours in some of the more ridiculously fast paced shooters.
As the form factor gets smaller and smaller and the visuals improve I'm certain these will be come extremely common accessories in a lot of households, I have family overseas with one and when you catch up in VR to watch a rugby game, play some mini-put or shoot some zombies together it genuinely feels like you've caught up with them in real life.
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Just had a look at the Vive standalone store. There are maybe 6 or 7 good titles, less than 150 titles in total and a lot of those don't even look like proper games. Meta is the market leader by a huge distance so anything decent will be on their store in some cases exclusively.
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@antipodean cheers!
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@Machpants said in Gaming/VR:
Quest 3 (although I only have a 2, but would love that extra res) is worth buying just so you can play Half Life Alyx!
You still need a PC to play Alyx. I played it through on my Q2, even on that it was phenomenal the attention to detail, still my absolute go-to when I'm showing VR off to guests, its a shame valve appear to be getting out of the vr realm.
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Tried this in VR tonight https://store.steampowered.com/app/513490/1943_Berlin_Blitz/
An original audio recording of a journalist who went up in a Lancaster bombing raid on Berlin and they've recreated highlights of that trip in Vr. Hell of an experience, its a few years old now but damn what a way to get a glimpse of what those blokes went through. Highly recommend, hope more are released.