Beer thread
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Beer thread:
Anyway, back to beer.
Brewed plenty of IPA but as we head into the autumn & winter months, what style of beer should I be looking at? Don't want anything too heavy though. Suggestions on a postcard...
Saison, Porter then heaps of Stout
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West Coast IPAs are a style that's been around for a long time but coming back into fashion after the rise and slight decline of the East Coast Hazy styles.
A West Coast IPA will be clear and crisp with a strong hop flavour that tends towards a more bitter, dank and piney, resin flavour.
Typically you would use classic hops like Chinook, Simcoe, Cascade, Columbus, Centennial, etc.
Pliny the Elder and now Pliny the Younger are considered the best examples of these. Others are like the Sierra Nevada Torpedo.
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@Kruse said in Beer thread:
I fucking hate burgers.
They're the messiest and shittest way to eat some otherwise tasty stuff.
I mean... the Jimmy Coops burger I had which gained my respect, partially did so because it came with a fucking special piece of equipment so that one could eat the burger to completion, without it falling apart midway through.
Because otherwise - that's what any "decent" burger does.
Sure - one can eat a fucking McDonalds burger all the way through, like a shit sandwich, because... it's shit.
Make a burger, or a sandwich, with any decent ingredients... and it becomes a fucking nightmare in eating-logistics.
I appreciate every piece of the "burger" - in isolation, and in combination. Meat-pattie, gherkins (fuck yeah), cheese, onion, lettuce, I've even grown to accept tomato. But in the form of a burger - it's a fluffy-bunny to eat.
Bring it.I can see how, with your meticulous, sober, and well-planned approach to life, that burgers could seem a tad messy.
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
Can’t you just put your burger down to take a sip of beer ?
Honestly…..
Somebody needs to create a burger shaped like a donut that fits snuggly around a pint glass and doesn't get damp. Hmm.
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@RoninWC said in Beer thread:
West Coast IPAs are a style that's been around for a long time but coming back into fashion after the rise and slight decline of the East Coast Hazy styles.
A West Coast IPA will be clear and crisp with a strong hop flavour that tends towards a more bitter, dank and piney, resin flavour.
Typically you would use classic hops like Chinook, Simcoe, Cascade, Columbus, Centennial, etc.
Pliny the Elder and now Pliny the Younger are considered the best examples of these. Others are like the Sierra Nevada Torpedo.
Yeah I’m a bit over Hazys……( just a bit, I’ve got one brewing as we speak ) so always keen to sink a West Coast IPA when given a chance !
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@RoninWC said in Beer thread:
West Coast IPAs are a style that's been around for a long time but coming back into fashion after the rise and slight decline of the East Coast Hazy styles.
A West Coast IPA will be clear and crisp with a strong hop flavour that tends towards a more bitter, dank and piney, resin flavour.
Typically you would use classic hops like Chinook, Simcoe, Cascade, Columbus, Centennial, etc.
Pliny the Elder and now Pliny the Younger are considered the best examples of these. Others are like the Sierra Nevada Torpedo.
Yeah I’m a bit over Hazys……( just a bit, I’ve got one brewing as we speak ) so always keen to sink a West Coast IPA when given a chance !
I get it, but I love them.
I was pissed when the sour revolution was on. Some craft places seemed to only have sour and brown ales ... neither are my bag really. So yeah, hazy awesome, WCIPA fantastic - basically anything hop forward is good for me!
WCIPA were all the rage about 12-13 years ago; people went nuts for the hop bombs and the bitterness balanced with the alcohol. So yeah, watch out for those 9 percenters now (although the hazies are up there too these days)
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@nzzp I had to have a mole out yesterday so afterwards wandered down to 16 Tun and tried all four. Agree Sunrise was the best. Also had F'OG the first beer from Two Fold the new Parnell brewery withe the ex Alibi brewer Bernard Neate. It gave the GP hazy's stiff competition.
So that was 5 x 8%'s which unfortunately persuaded me that another five at my local would be a grand idea. Pain medication right...
After which I have to concur with @Kruse a burger's a messy MF to eat
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@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@RoninWC said in Beer thread:
West Coast IPAs are a style that's been around for a long time but coming back into fashion after the rise and slight decline of the East Coast Hazy styles.
A West Coast IPA will be clear and crisp with a strong hop flavour that tends towards a more bitter, dank and piney, resin flavour.
Typically you would use classic hops like Chinook, Simcoe, Cascade, Columbus, Centennial, etc.
Pliny the Elder and now Pliny the Younger are considered the best examples of these. Others are like the Sierra Nevada Torpedo.
Yeah I’m a bit over Hazys……( just a bit, I’ve got one brewing as we speak ) so always keen to sink a West Coast IPA when given a chance !
I get it, but I love them.
I was pissed when the sour revolution was on. Some craft places seemed to only have sour and brown ales ... neither are my bag really. So yeah, hazy awesome, WCIPA fantastic - basically anything hop forward is good for me!
WCIPA were all the rage about 12-13 years ago; people went nuts for the hop bombs and the bitterness balanced with the alcohol. So yeah, watch out for those 9 percenters now (although the hazies are up there too these days)
100% the same and the beer I brew most frequently.
As there are so many variables when brewing a Hazy/NEIPA, I just can't get enough of experimenting with grain bills, yeast and hops and they are where I get the most satisfaction jboth in terms of brewing and then drinking.
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@dogmeat said in Beer thread:
@nzzp I had to have a mole out
Sounds painful, little buggers have sharp claws and they really dig in...
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Doing one of these for Autumn. Be interesting to hear from @MN5 on how it's matured after a few weeks.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Beer thread:
Doing one of these for Autumn. Be interesting to hear from @MN5 on how it's matured after a few weeks.
Not many left…..
As I said it came out maybe a tad bitter. ( this could just be my opinion, it tasted a bit ‘British’ ) still a fine looking and tasting beer overall. I’ve just consulted my brew book and we forgot to write down which hops we added ! Niggly.
We’re due a shopping trip soon so I’ll definitely grab a couple of Muntons ( maybe the milk stout and the West Coast ipa ) to give them a try.
Black Rock still does the best brews overall though. Mangrove Jack has massive variety and while they’re generally very good some of them aren’t perhaps quite as good as the marketing suggests ? ( or maybe I’m a shit brewer haha )
Overall though all the beers I’ve done have been far better than I’d dreamed they’d be. I think I still had the cliche of old mates home brew from 40 years ago in my head. Brewing has come on so much from the old days.
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
Black Rock still does the best brews overall though
Will look at those next.
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Black Rock Crafted BIB Hazy
HazyHazy features a blend of wheat malt, flaked wheat, carapils and oats and is sure to delight all fans of the haze craze!ABV 4.8% (approx), IBU 28, SRM 9Makes 23L
Knocked the top off one of these for a midweek beer.
Fucken outstanding.
Black Rock is even more idiot proof than Mangrove Jacks and the results are quite simply magnificent.
Slight pineapple and coconut notes, perfect for slightly warmer evenings when the sun is still out.
This reviews is coming from someone who is a bit ‘over’ Hazys as well so it must be ok
Supporting a kiwi company is a plus too
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Mangrove Jack's American IPA.
Bit disappointing. No real punch, slight after-taste and a bit bland.
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
Black Rock Crafted BIB Hazy
HazyHazy features a blend of wheat malt, flaked wheat, carapils and oats and is sure to delight all fans of the haze craze!ABV 4.8% (approx), IBU 28, SRM 9Makes 23L
Knocked the top off one of these for a midweek beer.
Fucken outstanding.
Black Rock is even more idiot proof than Mangrove Jacks and the results are quite simply magnificent.
Slight pineapple and coconut notes, perfect for slightly warmer evenings when the sun is still out.
Supporting a kiwi company is a plus too
Can only get the low-end Black Rock products in the UK, it seems. Bugger.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Beer thread:
Mangrove Jack's American IPA.
Bit disappointing. No real punch, slight after-taste and a bit bland.
Disappointing to hear. I really liked the one we did. Maybe our palettes are different or maybe it was a bad brew ? ( doubtful, you seem to know your stuff )
Did you add any additional hops ?
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Beer thread:
Mangrove Jack's American IPA.
Bit disappointing. No real punch, slight after-taste and a bit bland.
Disappointing to hear. I really liked the one we did. Maybe our palettes are different or maybe it was a bad brew ? ( doubtful, you seem to know your stuff )
I'll leave it another couple of weeks and see how it tastes. I have a Munton's American IPA brewing so will be interesting to compare.
Did you add any additional hops ?
Only what was in the kit. Not that knowledgeable yet!
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Beer thread:
Mangrove Jack's American IPA.
Bit disappointing. No real punch, slight after-taste and a bit bland.
Disappointing to hear. I really liked the one we did. Maybe our palettes are different or maybe it was a bad brew ? ( doubtful, you seem to know your stuff )
I'll leave it another couple of weeks and see how it tastes. I have a Munton's American IPA brewing so will be interesting to compare.
Did you add any additional hops ?
Only what was in the kit. Not that knowledgeable yet!
We always buy extra hops recommended by our brew guru. They usually make it better although a couple of cases of far too much bitterness. My brew book is at home so will consult and let you know what we added to the American IPA
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Four brews in various stages of readiness for Xmas…..
Black Rock IPA, Black Rock Hazy, Black Rock Wheat beer and Black Rock Bock.
First two will be magnificent. Duplicated a couple of brews I’d made earlier. Heaps ready for Xmas.
The Bock was a nice change but possibly a bit sweet for my palate ? Have saved a couple to age them and see.
Wheat beer was a piece of piss to make, will see how it tastes.
If there’s any doubt that Black Rock make superb beer pouches this should dispel the myth.
