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So, what HAS Michael Cheika actually done as a coach?

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  • antipodeanA Online
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="611656" data-time="1472872655">
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    <p>well, on the subject of coaches, Ian Foster has confirmed he is keen on the top job once Hansen leaves the building! </p>
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    <p>Not sure how I feel about that, but then, there was a time when alot of people werent keen on the thought of Hansen taking over either...</p>
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    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/ian-foster-head-coach-of-the-all-blacks/'>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/ian-foster-head-coach-of-the-all-blacks/</a></p>
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    <p>I don't understand the reticence - Hansen's on record saying that Foster does the majority of the actual coaching these days.</p>
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    <p>I wonder if Foster would have won a Super title with the assistance of Wayne Smith?</p>

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    Its seems a reality to say that Foster is a far better coach now than in the period 2004-11 and will be even better by 2019. He'll have served a tremendous apprenticeship by the time 2019 rolls around. He's pretty clearly a very strong chance to succeed Shag and there's [I assume] no doubt that the players would back him given his direct involvement with them over a sustained period of time given the excellence produced by the organisation.

    You'd have to think that the Rennies and Josephs of the world are going to lose some connection with the players while coaching overseas, and that Schmidt, if he coaches SR, and Boyd / Plumtree ticket would advance in that regard (simply by being recently involved with current players). That being said, I doubt a coaching candidate can get a reference by video from Sam Whitelock et al to advance his application.

    The continuity strategy has worked particularly well in the Hansen era. We'll get a big fat clue if Foster signs on post 2017 (is that his contract status?) or is replaced.

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    @kiwiinmelb said in So, what HAS Michael Cheika actually done as a coach?:

    When we judge coaches ,
    Is your success against the current Allblacks an unfair measuring tool ?
    if you were a basketball coach for example , no matter how good you are , your team would more than likely look second rate against the dream team .
    Gatland and Cheika have both been victims of the abs so far this year , do we hold that against them or accept they are on a hiding to nothing ?

    That was the standard that Robbie got held to - plenty of people were keeping count. 🙂

    At present, I'm inclined to think teams should adopt the same policy I suggested for us when we periodically used to get thumped by Steve Waugh's Australians. Pick your best team and try your best, but don't make any future selection decisions based on the humping.

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    i dont know if it's been mentioned yet, but NRL Melbourne Storm winger Marika Koroibete will be in the Aussie EOYT squad..
    Cheika making moves already

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    @Chris-B. said in So, what HAS Michael Cheika actually done as a coach?:

    @kiwiinmelb said in So, what HAS Michael Cheika actually done as a coach?:

    When we judge coaches ,
    Is your success against the current Allblacks an unfair measuring tool ?
    if you were a basketball coach for example , no matter how good you are , your team would more than likely look second rate against the dream team .
    Gatland and Cheika have both been victims of the abs so far this year , do we hold that against them or accept they are on a hiding to nothing ?

    That was the standard that Robbie got held to - plenty of people were keeping count. 🙂

    At present, I'm inclined to think teams should adopt the same policy I suggested for us when we periodically used to get thumped by Steve Waugh's Australians. Pick your best team and try your best, but don't make any future selection decisions based on the humping.

    That's because you blokes down south told us for the preceding 10 years that he was the Messiah and Mohammad all rolled in to one.

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    @mimic said in So, what HAS Michael Cheika actually done as a coach?:

    i dont know if it's been mentioned yet, but NRL Melbourne Storm winger Marika Koroibete will be in the Aussie EOYT squad..
    Cheika making moves already

    Has he played a game yet? Once the NRL season is over, there will be no rugby until he goes on the EOYT.

    He's reportedly on $700K too, which isn't bad for a replaceable NRL winger with a history of injury. Seems the ARU has buckets of available cash after propping up their Super Rugby franchises.

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    @Nepia said in So, what HAS Michael Cheika actually done as a coach?:

    That's because you blokes down south told us for the preceding 10 years that he was the Messiah and Mohammad all rolled in to one.

    He was. A man who could turn water into wine, but he still couldn't much help the Wallabies.

    I see he won everything in Japan last season. He's doing it for a hobby now.

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    @mimic In relation to Koroibete - while fast tracking straight into the Wallabies is a sign of their desperation, they really do lack any speed or true attacking ability on the wings - one thing Koroibete will give them is speed.

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    @KiwiMurph we lack wingers in general!

    This is a move by the ARU to get players into the systems so that we have a squad of guys available to fill in positions. Think the ABs did similar things, but with more of a youth focus, over the last couple of years. Wasn't someone saying McKenzie was invited to hang around the squad to get a bit of a grounding in the top tier?

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    @NTA Yeah Mckenzie's inclusion in the June squad was more about being immersed in the environment than actually playing. I suppose this way he can get up to speed quicker on Rugby again (I believe he played in school back in Fiji)

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    Also not sure about his eligibility until the WR protocols are all met and contracts finalised etc.

    Similar to Sefa Naivalu from the Rebels - not eligible until after the Pumas game in Perth.

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