Canterbury v Tasman
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<p>Any chance of a score update please, stuck in Thailand with no where to watch</p>
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<p>As a neutral, I don't think the commentators are showing more man-love for Canterbury than for Ta$man.</p>
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<p>The praise for Jordie Barrett is justified; he's showing a lot of promise.</p>
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<p>I agree that these commentators aren't great though. Never been a fan of Laban.</p>
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<p>Great offload from Todd leading to a great try from the Birdman.</p> -
<p>Thanks Stargazer much appreciated.</p>
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<p>Canterbury that is</p>
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<p>Thanks Stargazer much appreciated.</p>
<p>How are we playing overall?</p>
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<p>Canterbury clearly dominating the game; Ta$man defending well though, otherwise the score would have been much higher.</p>
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<p>That new Canterbury player Nathan Earl is an interesting player with potential.</p>
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<p>Goodhue just scored the bonus point try for Canterbury. After conversion, it's now 38-14.</p>
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<p>Oh, and if McNicholl wasn't going overseas, he would have been higher up the AB wannabe-queque than James Lowe.</p> -
<p>That was a great intercept from Jordie Barrett, leading to an excellent try by Canterbury's no. 22 (Finau?).</p>
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<p>Full time: Canterbury 45 - 14 Ta$man.</p>
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<p>5 tries to 1</p>
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<p>Canterbury well-deserved winners. Ta$man not bad; not sure when exactly it went wrong, but I suspect bringing on bench players played a role in the big defeat.</p> -
<p> Ta$man virtually no ball or field position in the second half.</p>
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<p>Biggest difference between the two teams was probably Big Bird (assisted by Scott Barrett and Luke Whitelock). I think we might have won one lineout. Scrum was under severe pressure at times, though markedly improved when Kane Hames came on. I think a lot from the power that was coming from behind the front rows.</p>
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<p>Hard to see who's going to beat Canterbury this season. Most teams simply aren't going to have size to compete with their forwards. They've dismissed Auckland and Ta$man with ease.</p> -
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<p> Ta$man not bad; not sure when exactly it went wrong, but I suspect bringing on bench players played a role in the big defeat.</p>
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<p>Not being able to win any ball was a bit of a problem. :)</p>
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<p>Frizell getting injured early was pretty much the end of the Ta$man lineout. He's a lock loosie, so at least provided good potential as the third lineout forward. Once he was gone, Bird and Barrett (and Whitelock) was a complete mismatch on Strange and Lepa.</p>
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<p>Princep coming on for Geldenhuys was under a lot of pressure at tighthead from Lienert-Brown - otherwise most of the replacements were OK. Hames an obvious upgrade and Makalio probably an improvement on McDonald.</p> -
<p>Geez Luke Romano has put on a lot of bulk looking at him live. Suprised he can move. Ta$man looked ok out wide but were badly beaten up front. Rob Thompson and Nathan Earle looked very good for the cantabs as well as their pack. I can see where SammyC is coming from in terms of Scott Barretts size as he is quite small for a lock. Looks bigger on tv than he does in person.</p>
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<p>Sadly I can't see anyone other than Canterbury winning yet another title. Just give it to them now I say lol.</p> -
<p>Romano seems to almost be on the outer now. Didn't get many starts for the Crusaders and now struggling to get a start for Canterbury.</p>
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<p>Romano seems to almost be on the outer now. Didn't get many starts for the Crusaders and now struggling to get a start for Canterbury.</p>
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<p>I think Robertson perhaps more just keeping him warm for the ABs and bedding in the guys who are going to carry his season.</p> -
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<p>I think Robertson perhaps more just keeping him warm for the ABs and bedding in the guys who are going to carry his season.</p>
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<p>Possibly but barely started in Super, S. Barrett pretty much preferred for most of the season. Not a stretch to say Bird and S. Barrett better than Romano right now.</p> -
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<p>Possibly but barely started in Super, S. Barrett pretty much preferred for most of the season. Not a stretch to say Bird and S. Barrett better than Romano right now.</p>
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<p>Not sure about that - I think Toddy did a fair bit of mixing it up - including with Sam Whitelock missing a few starts. Romano certainly started in the QF loss to the Lions because he missed a tackle in one of the quick tries at the beginning. :)</p>
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<p>Romano is really a heavy tighthead lock to Barrett's lightweight loosehead.</p>
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<p>I'm pretty much in Sammy's camp that Barrett's going to be too small to be an international lock. Bird will certainly push Romano, though. One of Toddy's less impressive selections - losing Bird to the Chiefs and retaining Barrett and Jimmy Tupou.</p> -
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<p>Not sure about that - I think Toddy did a fair bit of mixing it up - including with Sam Whitelock missing a few starts. Romano certainly started in the QF loss to the Lions because he missed a tackle in one of the quick tries at the beginning. :)</p>
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<p>Romano is really a heavy tighthead lock to Barrett's lightweight loosehead.</p>
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<p>I'm pretty much in Sammy's camp that Barrett's going to be too small to be an international lock. Bird will certainly push Romano, though. One of Toddy's less impressive selections - <strong>losing Bird to the Chiefs and retaining Barrett and Jimmy Tupou.</strong></p>
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<p>Bird was a damp squib at the Crusaders - it wasn't working, so him moving on was best for both parties, now he just needs to move on from Canterbury back home and all will be good.</p> -
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<p>Bird was a damp squib at the Crusaders - it wasn't working, so him moving on was best for both parties, now he just needs to move on from Canterbury back home and all will be good.</p>
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<p>Exactly, the guy played like a big girl at the Crusaders and moving was the best ting for his career. </p> -
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<p>Bird was a damp squib at the Crusaders - it wasn't working, so him moving on was best for both parties, now he just needs to move on from Canterbury back home and all will be good.</p>
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<p>Hard to tell last year - Toddy wouldn't pick him after the first few games. He was certainly good for Canterbury - wasn't he ITM Cup player of the year?</p>
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<p>Agree - there needs to be a re-jigging of locks to return to their home province. Chiefs can start by handing Retallick back to the Crusaders.</p>
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<p>Due to length of service I will grant Sam Whitelock an amnesty from Palmerston North - poor bastard doubtless suffered enough in his childhood! </p> -
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<p>Hard to tell last year - Toddy wouldn't pick him after the first few games. He was certainly good for Canterbury - wasn't he ITM Cup player of the year?</p>
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<p>Agree - there needs to be a re-jigging of locks to return to their home province. Chiefs can start by handing Retallick back to the Crusaders.</p>
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<p>Due to length of service I will grant Sam Whitelock an amnesty from Palmerston North - poor bastard doubtless suffered enough in his childhood! :)</p>
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<p>Retallick calls the Bay home now, he remembers the shoddy treatment he received from the Crusaders (and his HB missus made him return to the Pies)!</p>
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<p>Whitelocks are from a farm near Fielding I thought - but your final comment probably holds true no matter what the distinction.</p>
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<p>* Actually in your re-jig Bird would wind up at the Canes.</p>