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    @frugby

    The two wingers are class, especially Nareki who should be in the AB conversation with his skills. The fullback though... the Brumbies targeted him with the high ball and he was really found wanting. You could feel the game swinging the Brumbies way with all the balls he lost. A work-on I suppose.

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Highlanders 2024:

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    The two wingers are class, especially Nareki who should be in the AB conversation with his skills. The fullback though... the Brumbies targeted him with the high ball and he was really found wanting. You could feel the game swinging the Brumbies way with all the balls he lost. A work-on I suppose.

    In fairness, I think JRK has largely been really good under the high ball this year. It was also Millar who I think was found wanting more often - and part of it was that the Brumbies hung the kick right on top of a stationary player. Clever tactically.

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    Thought I’d chuck sports radio on today while driving. They had Jeff Wilson on and he had something really interesting to say.

    He said that there is noise that there will be coaching changes/movement ahead. He also said ‘does Jamie Joseph move to head coach?’, something along those lines. But he did finish by saying don’t be surprised to see movement in the coaching department.

    Considering he is the one saying that, I think we can expect some news in the near future as there won’t be many more in the know than he is.

    It will be very interesting to see what those moves are, are the shot callers ready to move on from Derms as head coach now instead of pushing it out another season knowing that’s their plan anyway? A case of ripping the band aid off now and getting on with their long term plan a year early.

    Could be an eventful offseason.

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    @Landers92 Joseph to HC, Dermody back to forwards coach, Flutey, Dillon and Donnelly's positions need to be revised. Especially Flutey and Dillon, those two have been stealing a living. Maybe look at replacing defense coach Dillon with Ben Herring who has recently finished up in Japan.

    HC: Joseph

    Forwards: Dermody

    Donnelly to concentrate solely on lineouts.

    Backs: Lynn and Ben Smith

    Defense: Herring

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    @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2024:

    Thought I’d chuck sports radio on today while driving. They had Jeff Wilson on and he had something really interesting to say.

    He said that there is noise that there will be coaching changes/movement ahead. He also said ‘does Jamie Joseph move to head coach?’, something along those lines. But he did finish by saying don’t be surprised to see movement in the coaching department.

    Considering he is the one saying that, I think we can expect some news in the near future as there won’t be many more in the know than he is.

    It will be very interesting to see what those moves are, are the shot callers ready to move on from Derms as head coach now instead of pushing it out another season knowing that’s their plan anyway? A case of ripping the band aid off now and getting on with their long term plan a year early.

    Could be an eventful offseason.

    Jamie will get what Jamie wants. If Jamie wants to be HC, then that would have been signed sealed and delivered a few weeks ago I'd say. It really depends how they think Dermody has done... he was on shaky ground you'd imagine after they went to Aussie.

    I think the spotlight is probably more on the assistants... I'd be stunned if Donnelly saw his contract extended, and Dillon could be a curious one to. One thing I am pretty sure of, is that Dermody won't step back to be the assistant - he'd have no authority.

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    Mike Proctor might be worth a contract?

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    @Tim said in Highlanders 2024:

    Mike Proctor might be worth a contract?

    This is a rugby thread not a cricket one and besides even if he was good enough it's a bit late as he passed away earlier this year in late February.

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    normally im not a huge one for blaming the coaching, i more often than not find effort or basic handling bigger issues and those can be put at the feet of players as much as anything

    ....but i think far too often over the last few years ive struggled to actually see what we're trying to do or when i could see it it was pretty pedestrian, too often it was just crash at 12 and look for quick ball....but we'd look to crash on inside shoulder leaving the defence to spread wide

    when i look at the players making good meters in the midfield they ALWAYS work to get onto the outside shoulder to either draw in the outside defender and make room for their wings....or to threaten that and to try and get the defence to over commit to the fold and fire back the other way...and we're either not trying to do that or putting in the effort to do it

    either way, some really basic things need to change

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    @SouthernMann said in QF - Brumbies v Highlanders:

    @Damo said in QF - Brumbies v Highlanders:

    @SouthernMann said in QF - Brumbies v Highlanders:

    @ruggabee said in QF - Brumbies v Highlanders:

    @SouthernMann It was the absolute lack of urgency in the final 20 minutes, win a turnover immediately kick the ball away, a complete lack of desire, walking to lineout, taking a full 30 seconds to decide which spot to take a penalty from. Complete absence of ideas on attack, serious lack of looking for out-of-box ways to get the backs involved, which is something that Brown always worked hard at and excelled even with the more limited squads in seasons past. He was innovative, Dermody, Dillon, etc. don't have a creative mindset.

    What crap. The last play off game he was in charge of we lost by 29 points to the Blues in 2022. A Blues team miles behind the team that is the 2024 itteration. More limited squads than the kids in the team this year? Celebrate the positives of this year and enjoy the growth. Tony Brown is not coming back

    Hang on.

    2022 Blues hosted the final.

    Yeah I didn't go into the full detail of the season when checking last night. The point was that with Brown, we still lost a quarter-final, and by more points.

    Not even comparable.

    Tony Brown was not afforded the same resources as Dermody - in both playing roster and specialist assist. coaches.

    Brown only had 3 assistants (due to Covid cost-cutting) whereas Dermody has 7 assistants including Joseph and B.Smith.

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    @frugby said in Highlanders 2024:

    @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2024:

    Thought I’d chuck sports radio on today while driving. They had Jeff Wilson on and he had something really interesting to say.

    He said that there is noise that there will be coaching changes/movement ahead. He also said ‘does Jamie Joseph move to head coach?’, something along those lines. But he did finish by saying don’t be surprised to see movement in the coaching department.

    Considering he is the one saying that, I think we can expect some news in the near future as there won’t be many more in the know than he is.

    It will be very interesting to see what those moves are, are the shot callers ready to move on from Derms as head coach now instead of pushing it out another season knowing that’s their plan anyway? A case of ripping the band aid off now and getting on with their long term plan a year early.

    Could be an eventful offseason.

    Jamie will get what Jamie wants. If Jamie wants to be HC, then that would have been signed sealed and delivered a few weeks ago I'd say.

    I sure as hell hope Jamie Joseph takes the head coach role on if he has been offered that. Would be the best thing for the franchise moving forward 110%. If Dermody wants to step down to forwards coach that’s fine, if he doesn’t then I’m sure Jamie won’t struggle to find a more than qualified coach to step into the role.

    Two things I ask for this offseason is for a midfield signing who can start and Joseph to be HC. Dream result.

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    @Higgins Ah ... Matt Proctor ...

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    @Tim said in Highlanders 2024:

    @Higgins Ah ... Matt Proctor ...

    As mentioned a couple weeks ago I heard the Canes are also talking to him for 2025 as a centre/wing option.

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    @Canes4life said in Highlanders 2024:

    @Tim said in Highlanders 2024:

    @Higgins Ah ... Matt Proctor ...

    As mentioned a couple weeks ago I heard the Canes are also talking to him for 2025 as a centre/wing option.

    Surely he would prefer regular game time… unless he’s happy to head back to where it all started and be at home of course.

    You’d think Japan would make the most sense for a player like him but he could sure as hell be a regular for the Highlanders.

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    Sacking a coach means they need to be replaced by a clearly better candidate, with team byin. Joseph is a great coach. The quesrion is, does the impact he has in his current role outweigh what he could do as head coach.

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    @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2024:

    @Canes4life said in Highlanders 2024:

    @Tim said in Highlanders 2024:

    @Higgins Ah ... Matt Proctor ...

    As mentioned a couple weeks ago I heard the Canes are also talking to him for 2025 as a centre/wing option.

    Surely he would prefer regular game time… unless he’s happy to head back to where it all started and be at home of course.

    You’d think Japan would make the most sense for a player like him but he could sure as hell be a regular for the Highlanders.

    All his family is in Wellington so that might be a huge influence for him at this stage of his career. A chance to play alongside his brother would be another reason for him to sign for the Canes. Proctor is only 31 so still has plenty to offer.

    If he goes to the Highlanders though fair enough, he would be a solid pick up and would provide plenty of experience in that midfield. A 12/13 combo of Tele'a and Proctor would be pretty solid.

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    The other guy is being released is Tamati Tua from the Brumbies. Defensively pretter average, does get over the gainline though. I can't see Proctor going to the Highlanders, especially as he turned us down to go to the Rebels. Also not a fan of picking up short-term solutions.

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    @SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2024:

    Also not a fan of picking up short-term solutions.

    Neither am I, but nobody has said he’s the answer to our midfield problems? Its better to look ahead no doubt but if its possible to land him and he was happy to be a regular squad player(not necessarily starting each week) who offers experience for a year or 2 while Tele’a, Josh Whaanga and whoever it is they see at 12 long term find their feet at this level then in my opinion we would be silly not to at least entertain that option.

    Proctor will be 32 by the time next season comes around so I don’t really see it happening, but if it did I wouldn’t be mad. If Tua wanted to come back to NZ and somehow landed up with us that would be great as he is only 26 and have an eye for the future with him that Proctor doesn’t provide. Defensive issues yes, but arguably a level above Gilbert based off this season.

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    @SouthernMann Random that they're releasing Tua as he's a regular starter in their midfield.

    He's the type of guy you guys would sign in your glory years in the mid to late 2010s, but I don't think he's an upgrade on anything you currently have.

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    @African-Monkey pretty sure he is looking to or will be signing a contract in Japan or France as he is using his out clause from his NRU contract.

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