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    @KiwiMurph thats the new A-League team? i wonder what their crowd expectations are

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    @Kiwiwomble Yep. They start playing end of this year

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    forgot about them, that does change the equation a little.

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    The fact that Auckland FC are originally playing at Mt Smart suggests that the match-day costs at Eden Park are too expensive.

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    @mariner4life Little would be right

    Across 8 seasons the Kingz /Knights best ever crowd was 9,000 and the average as far as I can work out was about 3.

    Given the Phoenix will have hoovered up some of AFC's potential fanbase the idea that they would be in a position to meaningfully support any ground seems optimistic.

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    The Roar aren't much better, but they fill in the year

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    The phoenix draw 15-20k when they play but that's a one off event rather than a whole season. Their average attendance in Wellington has been about 8k, with 3-5k when things are bleak and 10-12 when things are good. I'd guess Auckland will have similar goals, and maybe the popularity of recent phoenix games will help them succeed where the previous attempts failed.

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    @Cyclops said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    The phoenix draw 15-20k when they play but that's a one off event rather than a whole season. Their average attendance in Wellington has been about 8k, with 3-5k when things are bleak and 10-12 when things are good. I'd guess Auckland will have similar goals, and maybe the popularity of recent phoenix games will help them succeed where the previous attempts failed.

    The Auckland franchise will be wise to learn from how the Phoenix has been able to develop a hard core following, because you need that during the ups and downs

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    If Eden park 2.0 gets approved, it really needs to be given the money for the full 2.0 plans.

    It will be cheaper than a completely new stadium and still provide a world class facility.

    Make a decision now because in 12 months time it will have cost them 10’s of millions more in increased costs.

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    The Blues and Warriors are also talking about Eden Park 2.0. They’re not supporting any new stadium proposal until they get the full costings and Eden Park is the worst of the lot - their proposal amounts to a single press release.

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    As said before, the only stadium proposals able to get a big number of tenants are the waterfront proposals. The Warriors will never move to Eden Park. Auckland FC owner is prepared to put in money for a waterfront stadium.

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    The proposals also have options for lower capacity configurations.

    Anyway, the crowds would only come if the offering at the stadium was superior to that of the TV at home.

    Easier to get to
    Dining precincts nearby
    Roof
    Nice bars and lounges around the stadium
    Children’s playground and parenting facilities (hell I’d try and get one of those kids playground companies to be one of the tenants at the stadium like Bounce or Chipmunks).

    Given its location, the sunken stadium option would really be a big retail and dining mall during the week as the stadiums restaurants and fast food joints would be open 7 days a week. It’ll resemble the eateries under the Opera House in Sydney but with the big steps down to the water acting as covered outdoor dining areas with views to the harbour.

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    D-day is May 30.

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    All Blacks, Sport, Rugby

    Downtown stadium: NZ Rugby feathers ruffled by CEO's backing

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    CEO backed proposed downtown stadium but some members of board were unaware

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    PU-type board members are all about 'ties' and 'history' which is important - but not as important as 'making the most money or we go broke' 😉

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    If a new stadium was built in the city, could there be an option to turn Eden Park into a proper cricket ground?

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    i kind of feel they would want too develop the land to offset the cost of a new stadium

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    i kind of feel they would want too develop the land to offset the cost of a new stadium

    Yup. That's a lot of very expensive housing land right there

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    @mikedogz said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    If a new stadium was built in the city, could there be an option to turn Eden Park into a proper cricket ground?

    It's the wrong shape. If they are intent on killing Western Springs for speedway, it is oval, with banked sides. Not sure if it's big enough though

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    @canefan said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    @mikedogz said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    If a new stadium was built in the city, could there be an option to turn Eden Park into a proper cricket ground?

    It's the wrong shape. If they are intent on killing Western Springs for speedway, it is oval, with banked sides. Not sure if it's big enough though

    It floods. I think that's the biggest issue

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    Quay Park or Eden Ver2 versus BAU, about what I thought

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350293148/eden-park-and-quay-park-go-through-next-stage-become-new-zealands-national-stadium

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