Crusaders 2024
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@MN5 I wouldn't know because I don't really watch league but probably.
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@Canes4life I dont watch any league, but by the same token, I have probably watched less super rugby this year than I have, probably ever (1 or 2 games a week, depending on match ups)
I am enjoying when teams visit Fiji though, certainly has the energy the game needs!
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@Canes4life said in Crusaders 2024:
@MN5 I wouldn't know because I don't really watch league but probably.
I’ve seen about the same amount of league this year as I have Super Rugby but I’m somehow doing really well in an NRL tipping comp despite ( or maybe because of ) watching fuck all games. Life is weird like that.
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I agree that this is a silly situation, the playoff system is shit.
Buy since your Canes are so fucking fliptastic this year, you’re surely not worried about the Saders pulling out one more starchy performance and sending you guys home right off the bat?
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@gt12 based on Saturday’s performance I doubt the Canes are shaking in their boots. Still doesn’t change the fact the competition structure is cooked. I said the same thing last year when the Canes weren’t doing as well. They need to change it to at least a 6 team playoff, whoever made it 8 is a moron. Likely NZ bowing down to Aus again.
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In a series of interviews that Stuff did will all the NZ Super Rugby CEOs, they all seemed completely in favour of the current eight-team system. They expressed some dissatisfaction with other general things to do with Super so don't think it was just them sticking to an agreed line, either.
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@Mr-Fish said in Crusaders 2024:
In a series of interviews that Stuff did will all the NZ Super Rugby CEOs, they all seemed completely in favour of the current eight-team system. They expressed some dissatisfaction with other general things to do with Super so don't think it was just them sticking to an agreed line, either.
It lowers the bar, making it harder to fail. It's self interest
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We’ve now reached the “he has the full support of the board” phase
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@Duluth can they really keep backing Penney if the Saders don't make the playoffs though? I know the Saders have had their struggles, but they still have the cattle to make it into the top 8. Would be a massive failure if they don't.
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@Canes4life said in Crusaders 2024:
@Duluth can they really keep backing Penney if the Saders don't make the playoffs though? I know the Saders have had their struggles, but they still have the cattle to make it into the top 8. Would be a massive failure if they don't.
Penney walked into a stable franchise with among the top 5-6 squads in the competition.
It's certainly far superior than the Australian sides. Hurricanes, Chiefs, Blues, each have stronger squads... but honestly who else?
Last season under Razor the Crusaders qualified at 2nd spot despite being a walking injury-ward for the majority of the season. Razor had exactly the same group of assistants and management staff (except for one change, Hansen) and ultimately got the most out of his coaching staff unlike Penney. The current squad is IMO strong enough to finish anywhere between 3rd and 6th & challenge most sides in a Semi-Final but they won't because they're so poorly coached.
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@ruggabee Penney also had a crap record with the Waratah's which makes you think maybe he's just a poor coach and doesn't know how to get the best out of his players.
Justin Marshall said on the Breakdown on Sunday that he'll be very surprised if Penney gets the boot, that isn't how the Crusader's operate apparently, but then I thought to myself that the Crusaders simply don't usually lose this bad either so anything's possible.
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@ruggabee said in Crusaders 2024:
@Canes4life said in Crusaders 2024:
@Duluth can they really keep backing Penney if the Saders don't make the playoffs though? I know the Saders have had their struggles, but they still have the cattle to make it into the top 8. Would be a massive failure if they don't.
Penney walked into a stable franchise with among the top 5-6 squads in the competition.
Last season under Razor the Crusaders qualified at 2nd spot despite being a walking injury-ward for the majority of the season. Razor had exactly the same assistants except for Hansen and got the most out of his coaching staff unlike Penney. The current squad is IMO strong enough to finish anywhere between 3rd and 6th & challenge most sides in a Semi-Final but they won't because they're so poorly coached.
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I'll say one thing
fucking hell the Crusaders had an ugly fucking team, look at those munted heads
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I still have lucid flashbacks to the first episode of the breakdown this season as Jeff Wilson brashly opinions "if i look across the squads i seriously can't see anyone but the Crusaders taking out the title again" i remembered that particularly fondly as we got systematically taken apart by the previously bottom of the log and -126 points differential western force in the weekend😅😅
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@Canes4life said in Crusaders 2024:
@ruggabee Penney also had a crap record with the Waratah's which makes you think maybe he's just a poor coach and doesn't know how to get the best out of his players.
Justin Marshall said on the Breakdown on Sunday that he'll be very surprised if Penney gets the boot, that isn't how the Crusader's operate apparently, but then I thought to myself that the Crusaders simply don't usually lose this bad either so anything's possible.
It's not just a Crusader thing. I said it before, but NZ doesn't tend to sack coaches in a hurry. It's almost as though there is a thinking that holding on to coaches who appear to be struggling as some sort of morally mature stance. There is some benefit to avoiding knee jerk sackings but at times I think NZ goes too far the other way and end up sticking with duds for far too long.
Has a NZ Super coach ever been sacked mid season? Or even before their contract had expired?
