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    #590

    Crusaders Mid Season Injury Update

    Crusaders Mid Season Injury Update

    Blackadder,Burke,McAlister maybe LILO-Willie back straight after the bye.

    Barrett and Williams a few weeks latter.

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    @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

    Crusaders Mid Season Injury Update

    Crusaders Mid Season Injury Update

    Blackadder,Burke,McAlister maybe LILO-Willie back straight after the bye.

    Barrett and Williams a few weeks latter.

    Just save the hassle and give them the title now

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    @MN5 said in Crusaders 2024:

    @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

    Crusaders Mid Season Injury Update

    Crusaders Mid Season Injury Update

    Blackadder,Burke,McAlister maybe LILO-Willie back straight after the bye.

    Barrett and Williams a few weeks latter.

    Just save the hassle and give them the title now

    You have called it.

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    Went and watched University vs Sumner preseason on Saturday.
    Toby Bell playing at 12 for University is a future All Black. Never seen him play before. A class above every other player on the field. Has the perfect physique for a 12. Has pace , power and has a quality rugby brain.

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    @chchfanatic said in Crusaders 2024:

    Went and watched University vs Sumner preseason on Saturday.
    Toby Bell playing at 12 for University is a future All Black. Never seen him play before. A class above every other player on the field. Has the perfect physique for a 12. Has pace , power and has a quality rugby brain.

    Watched Bell in the Crusaders U/20 games this year he stood out in those games .
    He should get picked the NZ U/20 squad this year.

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    @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

    @chchfanatic said in Crusaders 2024:

    Went and watched University vs Sumner preseason on Saturday.
    Toby Bell playing at 12 for University is a future All Black. Never seen him play before. A class above every other player on the field. Has the perfect physique for a 12. Has pace , power and has a quality rugby brain.

    Watched Bell in the Crusaders U/20 games this year he stood out in those games .
    He should get picked the NZ U/20 squad this year.

    Is he related to the hooking Bell's?

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    @Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders 2024:

    @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

    @chchfanatic said in Crusaders 2024:

    Went and watched University vs Sumner preseason on Saturday.
    Toby Bell playing at 12 for University is a future All Black. Never seen him play before. A class above every other player on the field. Has the perfect physique for a 12. Has pace , power and has a quality rugby brain.

    Watched Bell in the Crusaders U/20 games this year he stood out in those games .
    He should get picked the NZ U/20 squad this year.

    Is he related to the hooking Bell's?

    I don't think so Toby Bell is a Northland Boy originally.
    George Bell from Otago originally so I don't think they are related.
    @taniwharugby would know for sure.

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    replied to Chris on last edited by taniwharugby
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    @Chris I dont believe so, but I have been known to be wrong now and again

    He is from Kerikeri, is highly rated and the Blues were very keen on him too (was in thier 2021 U18 squad) but he opted to head further south.

    He has played a bit at 10 as well (at least at club level anyway)

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    @Chris he is honestly the best chch club player I’ve seen in a long time.
    Surely he has to be in the full squad next year. Offers way more than Crotty.
    Crotty didn’t stand out against the same Sumner team last year.

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    Hopefully the Crusaders have him wrapped up,
    If he makes the NZ u/20 he will put himself on the radar for all the Super teams for next year.

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    @Chris Canes probably wouldn’t go for him already having Barrett and Higgins as 12 options, the latter in my view ironically I mentioned as being the best club player I had seen in Wellington for a long time a few years back.

    The Canes also have young hot shot Jack O’Brien coming through who will likely start at centre for the NZ Under 20s this year.

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    @Canes4life said in Crusaders 2024:

    The Canes also have young hot shot Jack O’Brien coming through who will likely start at centre for the NZ Under 20s this year.

    There is plenty of depth in the midfield and two players from last year's squad available again (Tuivailala and Taele). I think Bell will be there as well as Josh Whaanga. We may see a centre end up on the wing. O'Brien is no certainty to make the squad.

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    @Bovidae O’Brien is quite versatile so can play on the wing aswell if need be. I remember him scoring 32 points on debut for Marist St Pats Prems two years ago. He’s a Hurricanes training squad member so he should be in there but I think he might be injured atm so he might not.

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    Bloody Canes supporters. They win a couple of games at the wrong end of the season and they polute every thread with their chat.

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    Burke is out for a bit longer:

    However, pivot Fergus Burke’s long-awaited return from a busted Achilles drags on after he sustained a calf injury at training, meaning he will at least miss the team’s two-week tour of Australia.
    
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    Since he's going north at the end of this comp, I wouldn't give him any time at all.

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    @antipodean Will they get any more out of him than they do with Hohepa currently?

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    @antipodean said in Crusaders 2024:

    Since he's going north at the end of this comp, I wouldn't give him any time at all.

    Yeah I sort of agree with that,I would put more effort in to developing Reihana and see if Hohepa can step up any further as a 3rd option for 2025.

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    @Chris said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:

    Difference of how they should play go wide at high tempo or a more restrained game reliant on set piece and drive up the middle before going wide.
    Coaches on different wave lengths.
    Some coaches saying they don't have the players for one sort of game other coaches saying the same about the other alternative.
    Players a bit confused.

    Is this argument still happening? Based on Penney's comments just after halftime I guess he was in the high tempo camp?

    It worked against the Chiefs but the squad really does seem better suited to playing a tighter game. There's no quality issues in the pack

    I think they could adjust the back three for a more of a kick chase game too. McLeod for whatever reason struggle on defence in the midfield.. however he got into the AB squad basically as a tidy winger who chased kicks hard. McLeod & Reece on the wings with McNicholl at fullback

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    #609

    @Duluth said in Crusaders 2024:

    @Chris said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:

    Difference of how they should play go wide at high tempo or a more restrained game reliant on set piece and drive up the middle before going wide.
    Coaches on different wave lengths.
    Some coaches saying they don't have the players for one sort of game other coaches saying the same about the other alternative.
    Players a bit confused.

    Is this argument still happening? Based on Penney's comments just after halftime I guess he was in the high tempo camp?

    It worked against the Chiefs but the squad really does seem better suited to playing a tighter game. There's no quality issues in the pack

    I think they could adjust the back three for a more of a kick chase game too. McLeod for whatever reason struggle on defence in the midfield.. however he got into the AB squad basically as a tidy winger who chased kicks hard. McLeod & Reece on the wings with McNicholl at fullback

    Yeah I could see that working Hopeha at First five is a handbrake as well,No threat to the defence at all.

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