Exodus 2017
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jauzy19" data-cid="585956" data-time="1465469733"><p>
TH prop <span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><strong>Charlie Faumuina</strong> (Blues) will join french club Toulouse on a 3-year deal after the 2017 Lions Series.</span></span></span><br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2016/06/09/2361920-cotes-fermes-au-racing-92-92.html">http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2016/06/09/2361920-cotes-fermes-au-racing-92-92.html</a></p></blockquote>
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Does seem odd so far out, especially with the Lions a big thing for most current ABs and opting to leave now if you are a bench AB may see you miss the Lions should say Laulala make good strides next year
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Billy Tell" data-cid="585981" data-time="1465484694">
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<p>Is there a poster I "hate" more...</p>
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<p>At least mollycoddle us by saying "is rumoured to be joining" rather than "will join".</p>
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<p>I'm not the least surprised. He just about left last time, but decided to stay to try and crack the starting 3 spot...which still hasn't happened. He's not getting younger...and TH earn a mint in France...</p>
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<p>yeah, it is some perverse pleeasure Jauzy gets out of this. Menawhile - 3 great games were played on the world stage and France are an afterthought</p> -
<p>No perverse pleasure for me, i just want to inform you. I'm bored of all those foreign players coming in France, there is no identity in our clubs and the level isn't better so now i watch only 1 or 2 games per week when i watched 4 or 5 before.</p>
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<p>Dave Rennie to become head coach of the Glasgow Warriors from the beginning of the 2017-2018 season.</p>
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<p>Media release Glasgow Warriors: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.glasgowwarriors.org/news/16/08/19/chiefs-coach-dave-rennie-be-new-head-coach'>http://www.glasgowwarriors.org/news/16/08/19/chiefs-coach-dave-rennie-be-new-head-coach</a></p>
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<p>[As we'll increasingly get news about players/coaches leaving in 2017, I'm bringing back this topic.]</p> -
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Gee, couldn't Rennie get a bigger and better coaching gig in Europe? Coaching the Glasgow Warriors will be a step down from coaching the Chiefs.</p></blockquote>
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Wouldn't everything be a step down?<br><br>
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<p>Gee, couldn't Rennie get a bigger and better coaching gig in Europe? Coaching the Glasgow Warriors will be a step down from coaching the Chiefs.</p>
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<p>I mentioned it in another thread but perhaps he wanted a specific type of contract with out clauses and many of the bigger clubs weren't interested in that?</p>
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<p>I'm more surprised the Townsend got the Scotland job seemingly without interviews/applications? Surely Rennie is a guy you look at for something like that?</p> -
You Chiefs boys should be hoping for Keane to take over.<br>
If he can get them humming in attack like the Mako$ a couple of seasons ago combined with your inherent filthy niggling, smiley, you'll be in great shape<br><br>
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<p>I mentioned it in another thread but perhaps he wanted a specific type of contract with out clauses and many of the bigger clubs weren't interested in that?</p>
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<p><strong>I'm more surprised the Townsend got the Scotland job seemingly without interviews/applications? </strong>Surely Rennie is a guy you look at for something like that?</p>
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<p>Not at all.</p>
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<p>1) He's Scottish</p>
<p>2) He has done a damn fine job with Glasgow</p>
<p>3) Rennie IMO has signed a 2 year contract with Glasgow and will return to NZ in 2019 as part of the assistant coaching panel for the 2019 RWC. I mean who can take over from Hansen? None of the current panel have any credentials as head coach, so that leaves IMO Rennie, Joseph, and probably Schmidt. I don't think the NZRFU would touch Gatland with a barge poll (rightly so IMO), Cotter has little real success on his CV, ditto for most other NZ coaches. I suppose if the Hurricanes lads can back-up next season, they will be in the mix too.</p> -
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<p>Not at all.</p>
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<p>1) He's Scottish</p>
<p>2) He has done a damn fine job with Glasgow</p>
<p>3) Rennie IMO has signed a 2 year contract with Glasgow and will return to NZ in 2019 as part of the assistant coaching panel for the 2019 RWC. I mean who can take over from Hansen? None of the current panel have any credentials as head coach, so that leaves IMO Rennie, Joseph, and probably Schmidt. I don't think the NZRFU would touch Gatland with a barge poll (rightly so IMO), Cotter has little real success on his CV, ditto for most other NZ coaches. I suppose if the Hurricanes lads can back-up next season, they will be in the mix too.</p>
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<p>Not surprised by the appointment. Surprised by the timing and lack of a comprehensive search. To appoint someone this far out and without seeing what else is out there is unusual - especially for a team that needs all the help it can get to overperform.</p>
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<p>You Chiefs boys should be hoping for Keane to take over.</p>
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<p>Keane would be my choice.</p>
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<p>The official media release on the Chiefs website:</p>
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<p>Following his huge success with the Chiefs, Dave Rennie has been appointed Head Coach for the Glasgow Warriors in Scotland and will take up his new role at the completion of the 2017 Investec Super Rugby season. </p>
<p>Dave said it is with mixed emotions that he leaves the Chiefs. </p>
<p>“I have loved my time here and leave with a heavy heart. I’ve been fortunate to work with fantastic people and I am exceptionally proud of the men who represent us and what we have achieved over the past 5 years.†</p>
<p>Dave, who formerly coached Wellington, Manawatu and the New Zealand Under-20s, joined the Chiefs in 2012 and proceeded to take the Club to its maiden title in his first year. In 2013 he led the team to win a back to back championship and has since steered the team into the Super Rugby playoffs every year. </p>
<p>“Steph and I are really looking forward to a new phase in our lives. We are really impressed with what we have seen in Glasgow, the history, the people, the lifestyle. The Warriors are really aspirational, have good people, and have created a great culture under Gregor. But there’s a big job to be done here in 2017 before we pack our bags,†Dave said. </p>
<p>Chiefs Rugby Club CEO Andrew Flexman said while he has known about Dave’s intention to coach abroad for some time, he will be missed by the entire organisation. </p>
<p>“I wish Dave every success with the next chapter in his distinguished coaching career. We at the Chiefs are clearly disappointed to lose the services of such a talented coach.†</p>
<p>Dave will lead the Chiefs through his 6<span>th </span>Investec Super Rugby campaign for the 2017 season before taking up his new position for the beginning of the Northern 2017/18 season. </p>
<p>“We have a very exciting playing roster for 2017 and I know Dave will be determined to go out on a high note. The squad will not lack for motivation either given the contribution Dave has made to the success of this Club,†Flexman said. </p>
<p><strong>Flexman says they are well advanced in discussions around a replacement. </strong></p>
<p><strong>“We hope to be in a position to confirm a new Head Coach for the Chiefs over the next few months.â€</strong></p>
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Players off contract in 2017:
Kieran Read, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Cory Jane, Israel Dagg, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith, Charlie Faumuina, Sam Cane, Steven Luatua, Malakai Fekitoa, Hikawera Elliot, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, James Broadhurst, Tawera Kerr Barlow, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Waisake Naholo, Brad Weber, Charlie Ngatai and Ryan Crotty
Who do we really not want to lose, thinking ahead to 2019...?
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@Billy-Tell said in Exodus 2017:
Players off contract in 2017:
Kieran Read, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Cory Jane, Israel Dagg, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith, Charlie Faumuina, Sam Cane, Steven Luatua, Malakai Fekitoa, Hikawera Elliot, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, James Broadhurst, Tawera Kerr Barlow, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Waisake Naholo, Brad Weber, Charlie Ngatai and Ryan Crotty
Who do we really not want to lose, thinking ahead to 2019...?
All of them. But Whitelock the most because he and BBBR are light years ahead of the chasing pack.
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This is good news if comes to pass.
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@Billy-Tell said in Exodus 2017:
Players off contract in 2017:
Kieran Read, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Cory Jane, Israel Dagg, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith, Charlie Faumuina, Sam Cane, Steven Luatua, Malakai Fekitoa, Hikawera Elliot, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, James Broadhurst, Tawera Kerr Barlow, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Waisake Naholo, Brad Weber, Charlie Ngatai and Ryan Crotty
Who do we really not want to lose, thinking ahead to 2019...?
I think it's likely that Jane, Elliot and Broadhurst will cash in elsewhere.
Of those that I think we could lose without too much angst I would nominate Dagg, Luatua, Fekitoa, Ngatai (only because we are doing without him already). Weber wouldn't be a massive loss either.
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