Black Caps v Australia
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I hope this isn't coming across as a "waaaaah, we lost, sack em all" post.
It's more an excitement at what looks like a an opportunity is arising to freshen things up (the end of Southee). I must admit, Southee, does bring out bad parts of me. For reasons I can't always finger exactly. Some of it is admittedly assumption. I guess I've seen him as a bit of a cruiser most of his career. And captaincy of a team of old guys on decline is the worst possible fit for a cruiser captain and a powerless coach.
A lot of our players have wasted the last quarter of their peak years in this environment. Should have got more out of them before they got to this stage.
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Also not a: 'Southee made the team bad!' post.
The final summer under King Kane's captaincy was appalling.
Which is why I made the 1991 All backs comparison. It's the 'team of stale legends' problem. How do you fix that? It's almost impossible. Put up with it for 3 years (and counting). The NZC and Stead approach.
Or rip it up (and go to far). The NZRU and Mains approach.
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Good to see Daryl Mitchell's comments rightly get taken apart:
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia:
Dazza may discover that the Chennai Super Kings haven't paid $2.7 million for him to not be defined by team results.
Moose might be in for a rude awakening, a great bloke is Moose but a bit of a naive statement by him.
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The reaction to Mitchell's comment is exactly why we mostly get generic comments to the media. Anything else is not worth the risk.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps v Australia:
The reaction to Mitchell's comment is exactly why we mostly get generic comments to the media. Anything else is not worth the risk.
Arguably, I thought it was a very generic comment on his part trying not to get too deeply into discussing a loss. Listening to all of them this series with end of the day comments, they seem to have had media coaching on positivity (to a fault...)
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia:
@Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps v Australia:
The reaction to Mitchell's comment is exactly why we mostly get generic comments to the media. Anything else is not worth the risk.
Arguably, I thought it was a very generic comment on his part trying not to get too deeply into discussing a loss. Listening to all of them this series with end of the day comments, they seem to have had media coaching on positivity (to a fault...)
It's gotten to the point where I don't bother with any post match/pre match interviews with coaches and players. It's mostly like you say, 'coached', and I don't blame them for it. It's a shame.
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One remarkable tactic might be to actually tell the truth in interviews - like "we were really dissapointed we didn't win there" and "yes I think we let them off the hook" and "I think I really underperformed this series, but I'll try real hard to correct that in the next one".
But yes, interviews with the coach's and players are more often than not dire, often the players don't even answer the (very simple) questions posed to them and just say "yes I'm very proud of the boys and their performance" or some varient of that there-of.
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@Windows97 said in Black Caps v Australia:
@Donsteppa He's on a journey - just like his Dad
Like his Dad, maybe he is planning to get a job in the England setup in the future - he is echoing what they say after they lose.
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia:
Good to see Daryl Mitchell's comments rightly get taken apart:
He seems like a super competitive guy, so the comments were out of character
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in the current side, coming out and saying "tim southee was a bit shit, and so was that other bloke that shouldn't have been there" is probably a really good way to get cut from the side. Especially when you didn't score that many
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Stuff: ‘Tim is fantastic’: Black Caps throw support behind under-fire skipper
He is also "brilliant".
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Wagons circled.
NZ Herald: New Zealand vs Australia: Black Caps defend Daryl Mitchell after commentators turn on Kiwi batter