NFL 2016

antipodean

Hopefully the Tigers 
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He's probably got enough peptides already... 
OHHH you meant money.

Tim

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">[b][url=http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/sports/football/nfl-tried-to-influence-concussion-research-congressional-study-finds.html]N.F.L. Tried to Influence New Concussion Research, Congressional Study Finds[/url][/b] 
By JOHN BRANCH, MAY 23, 2016 
When the N.F.L. agreed in 2012 to donate tens of millions of dollars to concussion research overseen by the National Institutes of Health, it was widely seen as a positive turning point in footballâ€™s long history of playing down the long-term effects of brain injuries on players. At the time, the league said that it would have no influence over how the money was used. 
But the league and its head, neck and spine committee worked to improperly influence the government research, trying to steer the study toward a doctor with ties to the league, according to a study conducted by a congressional committee and released on Monday. 
â€œOur investigation has shown that while the N.F.L. had been publicly proclaiming its role as funder and accelerator of important research, it was privately attempting to influence that research,â€ the study concluded. â€œThe N.F.L. attempted to use its â€˜unrestricted giftâ€™ as leverage to steer funding away from one of its critics.â€ 
The N.F.L., in a statement, said it rejected the accusations laid out in the study, which was conducted by Democratic members of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce. â€œThere is no dispute that there were concerns raised about both the nature of the study in question and possible conflicts of interest,â€ the league said. â€œThese concerns were raised for review and consideration through the appropriate channels.â€ 
It is the latest in a long history of instances in which the N.F.L. has been found to mismanage concussion research, dating to the leagueâ€™s first exploration of the crisis when it used deeply flawed data to produce a series of studies. 
In this case, some of the characters are the same, including Dr. Elliot Pellman, who led the leagueâ€™s concussion committee for years before he was discredited for his questionable credentials and his role as a longtime denier of the effects of concussions on players. 
Others are more recent members of the leagueâ€™s concussion committee, like Dr. Richard Ellenbogen, co-chairman of the leagueâ€™s committee on brain injuries. According to the congressional study, he bid on the research grant, then directly lobbied the National Institutes of Health to discredit the work of Dr. Robert Stern, the Boston University neurologist to whom it was awarded. 
In the end, the N.I.H. did not receive the $16 million from the N.F.L. that it expected for Sternâ€™s research, the study found. And Representative Frank Pallone Jr. of New Jersey, who oversaw the study, accused the N.F.L. of trying to influence research that it promised to support without interference. 
â€œThe N.F.L.â€™s troublesome interactions with the N.I.H. fit a longstanding pattern of attempts to influence scientific understanding of degenerative diseases and sports-related head trauma,â€ Pallone said in a statement. â€œThe N.F.L. must recognize the importance of this ongoing, impartial research, and live up to its funding commitments to N.I.H.â€ 
Results of the study were first reported by ESPN. It also criticized the Foundation for the National Institutes of Health (F.N.I.H.), a nonprofit intermediary between the N.I.H. and its private and public donors, for not â€œadequatelyâ€ buffering the relationship between the N.I.H. and the N.F.L. 
The 91-page study said the N.F.L. funded the first four research projects by the N.I.H., but it made an issue over a proposed fifth. The N.I.H. recommended a study to characterize chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or C.T.E., in high-risk adults over the course of three to five years. C.T.E., a degenerative brain disease, is caused by repeated blows to the head. For now, it can only be diagnosed posthumously, and has been discovered in roughly 100 deceased former N.F.L. players. 
A year ago, the N.I.H.â€™s National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke concluded a peer-review grant process and recommended that Sternâ€™s proposal be chosen. The research was expected to cost $17.5 million, with $16.3 million of it funded by the N.F.L. 
Stern, a professor of neurology and neurosurgery, is director of clinical research for Boston Universityâ€™s C.T.E. Center, a leader in the budding research of the disease. It was the work conducted at Boston University, along with a few others, that propelled the issue of concussions into the national consciousness over the past decade. 
The N.F.L. long had an uneasy relationship with Boston University, as the league denied the effects of concussions for years, even as evidence and public pressure grew. Without admitting wrongdoing, it settled a class-action lawsuit brought by former players for about $1 billion. Earlier this year, at a congressional hearing, Jeff Miller, the N.F.L.â€™s senior vice president for health and safety, admitted to a link between football and brain diseases like C.T.E. 
The congressional study released Monday said the N.F.L. tried to pressure the N.I.H. into steering the grant away from Stern. 
â€œThere are many of us who have significant concerns re B.U. and their ability to be unbiased and collaborative,â€ Pellman, who spent 13 years as chairman of the N.F.L.â€™s Mild Traumatic Brain Injury Committee from 1994 to 2007, wrote in an email to Maria Freire, president and executive director of the F.N.I.H. 
Pellman said several others with ties to the N.F.L. were concerned by the choice, too. Among them, he wrote, were Ellenbogen and Betsy Nabel, the N.F.L.â€™s chief medical officer. They and others also took part in a conference call with N.I.H. officials, and some followed up with calls and emails to discredit the Stern proposal. 
The N.I.H. moved forward with Sternâ€™s proposal. The National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke reaffirmed in a September meeting that Stern had no conflict of interest and that his proposal received the highest score in the grant application review. 
But over the next several months, the N.F.L.â€™s Miller and the F.N.I.H.â€™s Freire debated the leagueâ€™s commitment to funding the research. The league ultimately said it would provide $2 million for the first year of the study. The N.I.H. declined the offer and said it would rather use its own money and reserve the $16 million for future research. 
The congressional study blamed the F.N.I.H. for â€œfailing to effectively fulfillâ€ its role by allowing league officials to directly lobby with the N.I.H. and not holding the league to its financial commitment. 
â€œA series of misunderstandings and disputes might have been avoided had F.N.I.H. reminded the N.F.L. of its obligation to fund the studyâ€ under the original agreement years before, the study concluded. 
The study by Democratic members of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce began in December, after reports that the N.F.L. was backing out of its promises to fund concussion research objectively.</blockquote>

Huge Carrot

Von Miller finally signs extension with Broncos, Brady gives up appeals and takes his 4 game suspension, oh and I went undrafted this year which I'm putting down to old age or the fact I got utterly ragdolled in a game on the front lawn over summer. Not the kind of thing the scouts wanted to see apparently.
 
Glad to see that old Sneakdefreak guy has been taken to the retirement home and won't be showing up for Fantasy season this year

Dice

Football is back!
 
Some highlights from the first week of pre-season.

Sneakdefreak

One preseason game in and it's obvious the 49ers are going to have a pretty good, young defence but absolutely no offence. 6-10 season I predict.

Huge Carrot

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One preseason game in and it's obvious the 49ers are going to have a pretty good, young defence but absolutely no offence. 6-10 season I predict.
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I checked this thread a few hours, thought "Sneak/Vadis haven't commented on NFL in ages, guess they're not playing Fantasy this year" and removed your teams from our league, I assumed you'd decided to go out on top. And Vadis had just decided to go out, since I can't recall him ever winning.

Sneakdefreak

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I checked this thread a few hours, thought "Sneak/Vadis haven't commented on NFL in ages, guess they're not playing Fantasy this year" and removed your teams from our league, I assumed you'd decided to go out on top. And Vadis had just decided to go out, since I can't recall him ever winning.</blockquote>
 
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Huge Carrot

Actually I should have thought of you earlier, since last week I was at Rebel Sport noticing they had a heap of Raiders/Seahawks/49ers stuff and not much for other teams. The Raiders I could understand given it looks good, the Seahawks because they are a winning team but I was struggling to think who they were importing the 49ers stuff for :fishing:

Dice

Week 2 pre-season games are on at the moment.
 
RG3 is looking pretty good for the Browns.

Sneakdefreak

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Week 2 pre-season games are on at the moment.
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Not much in today's games to read from other than Jimmy Garoppolo could get it done for the first four games of the season for the Pats and the Vikings defence is looking good.
 
Need to join some fantasy football leagues this weekend.

canefan

Who looks to have the 49ers starting QB spot?

Sneakdefreak

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Who looks to have the 49ers starting QB spot? 
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Looks to be CKap since they're resting him for the second pre-season game against Denver. Christian Ponder got signed which means if the 49ers can convince Jake Locker to come out of retirement they will have all three 2011 first round QB busts on their roster (Cam Newton is the only QB selected in the first round of 2011 who is still with his team).

canefan

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Sneakdefreak" data-cid="607163" data-time="1471683624">Looks to be CKap since they're resting him for the second pre-season game against Denver. Christian Ponder got signed which means if the 49ers can convince Jake Locker to come out of retirement they will have all three 2011 first round QB busts on their roster (Cam Newton is the only QB selected in the first round of 2011 who is still with his team). </blockquote>CK has more upside than Gabbert. But it is possible we've already seen his best

Dice

Kap didn't play again today. They're hoping he's ready for next week.
 
Biggest story of pre-season has been rookie Dak Prescott lighting it up for the Boys. Is he for real? Probably realer than Hayne was last year.
 
Number 1 pick, Goff, has been a bit meh. It seems like he is going to sit this year, which is weird for someone drafted that high.
 
I'm really liking that Jags defense. After being one of the worst defenses last year, they are suddenly loaded with talent on that side of the ball. They have decent weapons on offense too.

Mooshtaq

<div>Got a fantasy league going for those who are keen. Have a few still to join but need a few spots filled - will be NZ players and reasonably competitive.</div>
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<div>Link is <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://yho.com/nfl?l=773876&k=351c13936948cac3&soc_trk=lnk&ikey=1d73784bfebdaf3e'>https://yho.com/nfl?l=773876&k=351c13936948cac3&soc_trk=lnk&ikey=1d73784bfebdaf3e</a></div>

Sneakdefreak

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Got a fantasy league going for those who are keen. Have a few still to join but need a few spots filled - will be NZ players and reasonably competitive.
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I'm in since I got kicked out of another fantasy league for being too awesome.

Mooshtaq

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I'm in since I got kicked out of another fantasy league for being too awesome.</blockquote>
 
Cool. Got 3 or 4 people still to join but will still need a couple of gaps filled for a 10 team league.

Sneakdefreak

Hmm, maybe CKap won't be the starting QB.....
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espn.com/nfl/story//id/17401815/colin-kaepernick-san-francisco-49ers-sits-national-anthem-prior-preseason-game'>http://www.espn.com/nfl/story//id/17401815/colin-kaepernick-san-francisco-49ers-sits-national-anthem-prior-preseason-game</a>
 
They don't let you get away with that in a country that is brainwashed with propaganda.

Huge Carrot

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I'm in since I got kicked out of another fantasy league for being too awesome.
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We would have been delighted to have you and Vadis back given from TSF era 2013-2014 it was basically you two, me and two other guys who were active season long. But going by activity in recent months I thought you guys had buggered off and we had others keen to play. Vadis emailed me a few days ago and one spot opened up so it's reserved for him for a couple of days when he bothers to check his messages. Unfortunately we can't have uneven numbers in a league but would have been good to have the defending champ back. Though with the tougher standard of play this season he'd likely be under huge pressure to repeat.

The Silver Fern

NFL 2016