Crusaders v Waratahs
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Yep, looked a bit like the ole Clan out there. Some good players but not in the positions that count. Young halves found wanting, midfield malfunctions, some dire self-harm decisions...When Drummond comes on and looks sharp...cripes! Long season ahead. Feel the north-south-island will need to be humble this year.
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@Bones said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
@African-Monkey said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
@Bones Yeah that was a mistake. Drummond isn't anything special, but he at least brings a bit of calmness out there. Hotham ain't ready to start yet.
Felt like the coach was naming a "B" side and taking this game a bit lightly.
Might have been better to start Drummond alongside the new kid at 10 and havili.
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Well that was ugly,very un Crusader like.
Kemara is very poor he should not be in a Crusaders jersey.
Havilli and Bell were shit as well.
Apart From Barrett Reece and Hannah off the bench the rest should have to swim home in shark infested waters.
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RA taking over the Tahs is paying immediate dividends. Other Unions should take notice.
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@antipodean said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
RA taking over the Tahs is paying immediate dividends. Other Unions should take notice.
Let's wait until they crash against the Clan before we go stroking Phil's ego, eh?
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@Tim said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
I can see there still being four certainties in the forwards (Williams, Taylor, Barrett, Blackadder), but people calling for the likes of Strange to be selected should be in for a reality check.
Newell and probably only Reece from the backs (at this point of time)
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@Chris said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
Well that was ugly,very un Crusader like.
Kemara is very poor he should not be in a Crusaders jersey.
Havilli and Bell were shit as well.
Apart From Barrett Reece and Hannah off the bench the rest should have to swim home in shark infested waters.
Pretty disgusted by that performance.That was not flash by Crusaders, perhaps some credit to the Tahs should be given I thought. I know for some Crusaders' fans noone else deserves to be good enough to beat them. I genuinely thought the Tahs went well.
And though I agree that Kemara struggled in first game to say should not be in Crusaders' jersey a bit over top. He was kind of thrown in deep end, and I thougt didn't get the support from Havili I hoped, and Hotham looked pretty clunky. I also agree Bell struggled (as he did last week I thought) and seems to me to be one who is struggling with step up' But anyway, I still think the Crusaders will go alright, don't see them topping table , but will still be there or thereabouts, and perhaps good news is Auusie teams just maybe more competitive this year. -
@Dan54 said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
@Chris said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
Well that was ugly,very un Crusader like.
Kemara is very poor he should not be in a Crusaders jersey.
Havilli and Bell were shit as well.
Apart From Barrett Reece and Hannah off the bench the rest should have to swim home in shark infested waters.
Pretty disgusted by that performance.That was not flash by Crusaders, perhaps some credit to the Tahs should be given I thought. I know for some Crusaders' fans noone else deserves to be good enough to beat them. I genuinely thought the Tahs went well.
And though I agree that Kemara struggled in first game to say should not be in Crusaders' jersey a bit over top. He was kind of thrown in deep end, and I thougt didn't get the support from Havili I hoped, and Hotham looked pretty clunky. I also agree Bell struggled (as he did last week I thought) and seems to me to be one who is struggling with step up' But anyway, I still think the Crusaders will go alright, don't see them topping table , but will still be there or thereabouts, and perhaps good news is Auusie teams just maybe more competitive this year.We all have our opinions and I am really pissed off with that performance it was shit.
And I don’t need a lecture about the Crusaders after that shit show. -
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@NTA said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
@Dan54 said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
perhaps some credit to the Tahs should be given I thought
You must be new here....
Annoyed most commentators are calling it an upset win, Tahs on paper at start of game we’re much better all round team with exception of Barret and Reece
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@Nevorian said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
@NTA said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
@Dan54 said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
perhaps some credit to the Tahs should be given I thought
You must be new here....
Annoyed most commentators are calling it an upset win, Tahs on paper at start of game we’re much better all round team with exception of Barret and Reece
Which is also a good point. The Crusaders aren't the 2023 version.
I'll point out the Tahs were dire last week, which probably set a lot of expectations.
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@Nevorian said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
@NTA said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
@Dan54 said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
perhaps some credit to the Tahs should be given I thought
You must be new here....
Annoyed most commentators are calling it an upset win, Tahs on paper at start of game we’re much better all round team with exception of Barret and Reece
Are you surprised based on the quality of rugby commentary?
Edmed was excellent last night. Fantastic punting.
That Tahs backline is worth sticking with - had a nice balance played with good spacing.
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@NTA said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
@Dan54 said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
perhaps some credit to the Tahs should be given I thought
You must be new here....
The Tahs playing well is new here!
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@Duluth said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
Interesting that only two of the starting XV for this game (SBarrett and Christie) were in the starting XV for last year's final.
Though Lio-Willie, Drummond and McLeod also started - and Bell, Strange, Gardiner and Fihaki were on the bench.
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@Nevorian said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
@NTA said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
@Dan54 said in Crusaders v Waratahs:
perhaps some credit to the Tahs should be given I thought
You must be new here....
Annoyed most commentators are calling it an upset win, Tahs on paper at start of game we’re much better all round team with exception of Barret and Reece
Oh come on, the Tahs were paying $8.50 with the bookies here.
You can spin it any way you like, but a team who has consistently underperformed for the last six or seven years was up against the multiple time defending champions. I wouldn't call it David and Goliath, but maybe David and Goliath's younger brother, Hefty.
We were 13 up with three minutes left and my heart was pounding. I was sure they would somehow come back and dust us. That's the power of the Crusaders. Because that's just they type of shit they do.
Waratahs were suprisingly blue collar when it mattered most. Good solid defence and physicality at the breakdown. Took their chances well and just hung in there. Was a cracking effort.
