Olympics Thread
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="605931" data-time="1471395312">
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<p>I've honestly always struggled with the Olympics having subjective sports. Diving, Synchronised Swimming etc where judges decide points etc.</p>
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<p>Fastest, Highest, Strongest was the original motto. I'm happy with that being extended to most goals / points etc. But highest score as decided by judges? </p>
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<p>Just doesn't sit right with me.</p>
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<p>Anything "artistic" can fuck off like the dancing gymnastics or ball-throwing bit. Dressage? Fuck off. Actually scrap everything horse-related because its a crock of shit and nothing to do with "human endeavour". Just rich fluffybunnies.</p>
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<p>Swimming needs to be seriously culled down to 100m, 200m, 400m, 1500m, 10km open water race - fastest wins, whatever stroke you want. If you can beat someone's freestyle using butterfly, go for it.</p>
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<p>Walking? Fuck off. </p>
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<p>what about gymnastics?</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="605941" data-time="1471398244"><p>Anything "artistic" can fuck off like the dancing gymnastics or ball-throwing bit. Dressage? Fuck off. Actually scrap everything horse-related because its a crock of shit and nothing to do with "human endeavour". Just rich fluffybunnys.<br>
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Swimming needs to be seriously culled down to 100m, 200m, 400m, 1500m, 10km open water race - fastest wins, whatever stroke you want. If you can beat someone's freestyle using butterfly, go for it.<br>
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Walking? Fuck off. <br>
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Judo is shit to watch. Karate would be better.</p></blockquote>
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Pedant note:<br>
Freestyle is exactly what it means. Use whatever style/stroke you want. The front crawl stroke is the one chosen. -
Re-posting the article about AIBA corruption;<br><br><br><br>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/01/rio-2016-olympics-boxing-corruption-allegations'>https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/01/rio-2016-olympics-boxing-corruption-allegations</a> -
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<p>According to Wiki - Hockey is the only Olympic sport India has a good track record in - they've won 11 medals including 8 golds.</p>
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<p>Only other sports they've medaled in are shooting (4 medals, 1 gold), wrestling (4 medals, 0 gold), boxing (2 medals), badminton, weightlifting and tennis (one bronze in each).</p>
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<p>They used to be untouchable in hockey but then the world caught up and passed them.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiPie" data-cid="605946" data-time="1471399011">
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<p>They used to be untouchable in hockey but then the world caught up and passed them.</p>
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<p>Once the pitches became synthetic, if I'm not wrong. Game became so much faster and they didn't have the facilities to keep up</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Immenso Rapido" data-cid="605944" data-time="1471398748"><p>Re-posting the article about AIBA corruption;<br><a class="bbc_url" href="https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/01/rio-2016-olympics-boxing-corruption-allegations">https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/01/rio-2016-olympics-boxing-corruption-allegations</a></p></blockquote>
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Wow! Was not aware of any of that. I'm a bit more tolerant of Conlon's outburst having read that. Demonise and isolate the whistleblowers seems to be the usual tactic in these kind of situations. -
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<p>what about gymnastics?</p>
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<p>Apparatus have stricter rules than the artistic gymnastics, but still have a bit of grey area around things like the landing and how many points that deducts.</p>
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<p>Move to real-time computer judging for those things. Make everyone do the same routine/vault/whatever and let the computer decide.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Pot Hale" data-cid="605943" data-time="1471398744">
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<p>Pedant note:<br>
Freestyle is exactly what it means. Use whatever style/stroke you want. The front crawl stroke is the one chosen.</p>
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<p>There you go then - the other events aren't needed.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="605950" data-time="1471399412">
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<p>Great to see so many athletes willing to talk to New Zealand media.</p>
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<p>Probably <strike>think they're</strike> mistook them for Australian media :whistle:</p> -
<p>I see Chris Rattue has done a peice for the Aussie papers.......</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/83268704/rio-olympics-2016-australian-media-hang-chokers-tag-on-their-olympians-after-lean-medal-haul'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/83268704/rio-olympics-2016-australian-media-hang-chokers-tag-on-their-olympians-after-lean-medal-haul</a></p> -
The problem with swimming isn't the 4 different strokes.<br><br>
I'm genuinely impressed that Phelps at times is the worlds best at both butterfly and freestyle.<br><br>
The problem is the proliferation of distances, and relays.<br><br>
Having both a 100 free relay and a 200 relay is a joke. <br><br>
A 100 free relay and a 100 medley relay would make sense.<br><br>
As for the individual events. One of the 100 or 200 needs to go. There is too much crossover of athletes IMO.<br><br>
So in my world remove the 200 from each Stoke, plus the 200 relay.<br><br>
Leaving the 50, 100, 400 and 1500.<br><br>
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<p>Probably think they're Australian media :whistle:</p>
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<p>I really don't get what you are getting at here? Even with the emoticon, I'm still not following!</p> -
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<p>I see Chris Rattue has done a peice for the Aussie papers.......</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/83268704/rio-olympics-2016-australian-media-hang-chokers-tag-on-their-olympians-after-lean-medal-haul'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/83268704/rio-olympics-2016-australian-media-hang-chokers-tag-on-their-olympians-after-lean-medal-haul</a></p>
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<p>Well, we fucking ARE choking. Headed into the swimming especially we had a lot of medal hopes, and the Campbell sisters in particular choked hard.</p> -
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<p>I really don't get what you are getting at here? Even with the emoticon, I'm still not following!</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="605947" data-time="1471399205"><p>Once the pitches became synthetic, if I'm not wrong. Game became so much faster and they didn't have the facilities to keep up</p></blockquote>
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I heard they asked to play on dirt roads.... -
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<p>Edited for clarity :)</p>
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<p>Still not following at all! The way I read it is that you think athletes want to speak to Aussie media but not NZ. Which I can't even see a joke in!</p> -
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<p>Well, we fucking ARE choking. Headed into the swimming especially we had a lot of medal hopes, and the Campbell sisters in particular choked hard.</p>
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<p>I dunno, I think it's more that the competition has caught up. Australian funding has always been streets ahead and that simply isn't the case anymore.</p>
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<p>The Campbell sisters certainly choked, although I think they hold nothing on the Kiwi Mens hockey team. That was a beauty.</p> -
I see the next batch of Georgian props are developing their skills in their international academy - the Olympic weightlifting comp.
