EPL 2023/2024
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United are really really average. City not out of 2nd gear and it’s already 2-0.
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@sparky said in EPL 2023/2024:
The gap between Man City and Man Utd is an enormous chasm currently.
Mind you, Tottenham, Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa are all challenging Man City in the league at least for the moment.
MU are currently a mid-table team. Anyone and everyone will think they have a chance. MC strolled to victory.
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@Billy-Tell I also don’t think Manchester United’s problems are easy to fix with one or two marquee signings. They’ve spent a fortune on a squad full of middle-of-road or past their prime players for whom mid-table is about right.
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@canefan said in EPL 2023/2024:
Would be amazing if both of the promoted teams made a second jump together
Most pundits pre-season picked both Notts County and Wrexham to go up this season - along with Stockport.
@mofitzy_ said in EPL 2023/2024:
England's real golden generation. Will make anything less than silverware even more painful.
BBC recently did a poll and gave their own opinion of what a blended team of the current squad and the Beckham era 'golden generation' would look like. It was a pretty even balance with 2004 6 vs today's 5.
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@sparky said in EPL 2023/2024:
@Billy-Tell I also don’t think Manchester United’s problems are easy to fix with one or two marquee signings. They’ve spent a fortune on a squad full of middle-of-road or past their prime players for whom mid-table is about right.
Their defensive backs are hopeless. The only player I reckon that is top notch is Bruno Fernandes. But you can’t be a one man team. Casemiro is decent too but didn’t play today.
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@sparky said in EPL 2023/2024:
Jude Bellingham has overhauled the great Zinedine Zidane’s record goal haul in a season for Real Madrid. It’s October and Jude Bellingham is 20 years old. Unreal talent.
Huh? what record goal haul in a season for Real Madrid did Zinedine Zidane even have?
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@Billy-Tell They seem to have a lot of players who are useful but there is no set pattern to the way they way. Obviously having Varane, Martinez, Shaw out is not going to help the defence. Casemiro might be past it, Eriksen is probably past it, Mount was never going to fix anything and Antony should be put up for sale.
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:
@Billy-Tell They seem to have a lot of players who are useful but there is no set pattern to the way they way. Obviously having Varane, Martinez, Shaw out is not going to help the defence. Casemiro might be past it, Eriksen is probably past it, Mount was never going to fix anything and Antony should be put up for sale.
Add Fernandes to that list. He is old and slow. Disjointed press made it easy to carve and bypass ManU's midfield up but credit Man City. They are dam good. I mean would they have played any better with KDB? Great evaluators of talent. Great coach and they know when to off load players that no longer make the grade (Zinchenko and Jesus).
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:
Good point for Fulham today.
Brighton are our bitches.
They only have three points (no wins) from our last 5 meetings.
Even under Parker they couldn't beat us.
Hoping ManU continue their current form in the next round...
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@sparky Their backline was shocking today. Lindelof looked lost at Left Back, and how have they ended up with Maguire and Evans as their starting centre backs lol. Haaland managed to find himself in acres of space almost everytime he entered the penalty area, they didn't look like they'd been taught how to defend.
Amrabat also looked completely lost out there. I thought he looked good at Fiorentina and for Morocco at the world cup, but he looked like a Sunday league footballer today.
They'll blame the Glaziers like they always do, but some of their recruitment team/managers they've bought in have added to their demise. They sure know how to waste a lot of money.
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:
@Billy-Tell They seem to have a lot of players who are useful but there is no set pattern to the way they way. Obviously having Varane, Martinez, Shaw out is not going to help the defence. Casemiro might be past it, Eriksen is probably past it, Mount was never going to fix anything and Antony should be put up for sale.
Quoting myself but I just realised that Varane was on the bench. World Cup winner being benched for Jonny Evans who was sold 8 years ago to West Brom.
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very much a casual PL viewer these days, mainly watching so i can talk to my son about it.
But how good is Ange going? Spurs unbeaten. WHL rocking. Saying all the right things, and seems really comfortable with the place. I'm so glad he's killing it.
Top 5 seem to have established a gap, and we are all just waiting for City to not lose a game in 2024 to win the league really.
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@mariner4life and there is a good chance that will happen. They have an eye for talent and replacing what they have lost. Can't see them losing the title.
Now Arsenal on the other hand made 2 good signings this summer but one injured. The other, Havertz, is an abject failure. Both Arteta and Edu should go for that signing and all the other failures which are plenty. Arteta arrogant enough to think he can convert him to an 8. Rice is being run ragged and he is excellent. Saka does not know how to beat someone down the outside. If he is injured bring Nelson in. Everything is slowed down as a result. No striker unless we are playing the bottom of the barrel. A midfield hanging on by a thread. Imagine that midfield without Rice? Just think who we could have had for 65 million? Subs with 15 to play, a slight improvement from bringing on players with 5 to 10 to play. Not sure what he is seeing. No one will shoot from outside the eighteen. This is circa 2012 to whenever Wenger left. Have to pass it in to score. Horrible to watch. Kind of like watching a Fozzie coached AB team. Arteta needs to go.
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