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  • MN5M Online
    MN5M Online
    MN5
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    #182

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="shark" data-cid="602495" data-time="1470129606">
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    <p>Jimmy Neesham averages 38.25 after 9 tests. Whilst that's a small snapshot thus far, it does include 3 50s and 2 hundreds against 3 different opponents. Four of those scores were made at 6. Problem is, the bowling average is very similar. And he needs to keep fit.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm a massive fan of his but see your point. I can see that batting average dropping over time to be honest.......I just hope the bowling does too. Him and Anderson at 5-6 puts a couple of guys who whilst having serviceable records with the bat just wouldn't provide enough of a bowling threat to the very best batsmen.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I see them both fighting for the one spot but that's assuming Nichols turns out to be good ( then there's always the chance Guptill may drop to 5 )</p>

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  • gollumG Offline
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    #183

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="shark" data-cid="602495" data-time="1470129606">
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    <p>Jimmy Neesham averages 38.25 after 9 tests. Whilst that's a small snapshot thus far, it does include 3 50s and 2 hundreds against 3 different opponents. Four of those scores were made at 6. Problem is, the bowling average is very similar. And he needs to keep fit.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm a big Neesham fan, more so than Anderson, but I just don't see him being fit enough long term. He's had a pretty solid T20 campaign for Derby this year (less so ODIs)</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/averages/batting_bowling_by_team.html?id=10775;team=955;type=tournament'>http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/averages/batting_bowling_by_team.html?id=10775;team=955;type=tournament</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>At least no one has tried to wedge Jesse Ryder in yet.</p>

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  • MN5M Online
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    MN5
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    #184

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="602537" data-time="1470136713">
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    <p>I'm a big Neesham fan, more so than Anderson, but I just don't see him being fit enough long term. He's had a pretty solid T20 campaign for Derby this year (less so ODIs)</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/averages/batting_bowling_by_team.html?id=10775;team=955;type=tournament'>http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/averages/batting_bowling_by_team.html?id=10775;team=955;type=tournament</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>At least no one has tried to wedge Jesse Ryder in yet.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Yeah I think I finally gave up on the dreams of a Williamson/Taylor/Ryder 3/4/5 last year. Sigh. If only.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>On conversations on here I picked us to be discussing the latter two as NZers who could threaten 50 averages, one still might and another emerged who will be the best of them all.</p>

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    #185

    <div>"De Villiers, Morkel ruled out of NZ Tests"</div>
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    <div>result for us<br><br>
    also:<br><br>
    "Afrikaans-language newspaper Rapport claimed CSA have agreed on six players of colour in every starting XI, of which at least two must be black African. In this squad, South Africa have seven players of colour which includes two black Africans."<br><br>
    very....political (although Rabada and Bavuma are there actually there on merit I guess? I imagine they'd both be in anyway)</div>

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    #186

    <p>Meanwhile, over in Sri Lanka, SL have two wickets in two balls and Aus are 59/4 in the first innings after SL scored 281.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Carnage out there - and a missed stumping already ... Aus in big trouble now.</p>

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    #187

    <p>sorry, I meant 88/8.</p>
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    <p>Australia lucky to avoid the follow on 🙂  You go away for half an hour, and this happens?  Herath with 4, the other spinner with 3</p>

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    #188

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="nzzp" data-cid="603198" data-time="1470374848">
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    <p>sorry, I meant 88/8.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Australia lucky to avoid the follow on 🙂  You go away for half an hour, and this happens?  Herath with 4, the other spinner with 3</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Herath with a hat trick apparently!  Voges Neville Starc... Caught, LBW, LBW</p>

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #189

    <p>a test hatrick. Nice</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>And Pakistan are all over England in the 3rd test as well. </p>

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    #190

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="603200" data-time="1470375232">
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    <p>a test hatrick. Nice</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>And Pakistan are all over England in the 3rd test as well. </p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>And Aus rolled for 106 with a deficit of 175.  </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Now time for SL to crush them and then spin them out again in the second innings.  9 wickets falling to spin for the Aussies ... suddenly looking like a soft underbelly.</p>

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #191

    <p>2 down, 1 each to their seamers. Starc and Hazlewood can take wickets anywhere</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Suddenly looks like a soft underbelly? Did you miss their last tour to India?</p>

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    #192

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="603205" data-time="1470377469">
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    <p>Suddenly looks like a soft underbelly? Did you miss their last tour to India?</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>For a team that is clearly No 1 in the test rankings, yes!</p>

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #193

    <p>yea, that's what i am saying, it's not "suddenly" at all, they can't play spin to save their lives.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>They went to India in 2013 and got pounded 0-4. They played Pakistan away and got fucking hammered 0-2, now they are in Sri Lanka and getting fucked. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>They may be the #1 side, but that's built on them being very fucking good in Australia, South Africa, and New Zealand. They're shit in England, and terrible on the South continent (or the middle east i guess)</p>

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  • NTAN Offline
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    #194

    And we get flat decks in our home country, too. Mentally soft when it comes to spin.

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  • boobooB Offline
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    #195

    Ceylon leading by three hundy. 6 down

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    #196

    <p>Games like this where runs are so damn valuable are far better to watch.  Flat decks don't make for interesting cricket generlaly.</p>

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    #197

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="nzzp" data-cid="603243" data-time="1470388058">
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    <p>Games like this where runs are so damn valuable are far better to watch.  Flat decks don't make for interesting cricket generlaly.</p>
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    <p>Could not agree more. Scores of 300 - 400 make for a brilliant game to watch, and when a batsmen gets a ton it means so much more.</p>

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    #198

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="603258" data-time="1470398532">
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    <p>Could not agree more. Scores of 300 - 400 make for a brilliant game to watch, and when a batsmen gets a ton it means so much more.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>And reduces the obsession with statistics in general and averages in particular.  A 50 in this game is like a big hundred elsewhere.  </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Good for Sri Lanka for preparing pitches that do something.</p>
    <p>
     </p>

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  • P Offline
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    Provincial Stalwart
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    #199

    I can't believe the Galle of the sri Lankans preparing turning tracks when the Aussies don't like them.<br><br>
    Sent from my VF-895N using Tapatalk

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  • P Offline
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    #200

    I note Mitch stark has 11 wickets - gives zero fucks about whether the pitch is not pace friendly.<br><br>
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  • P Offline
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    Sorry, starc. <br><br>
    And on names, there are two ceylonians named M Perera. Luckily they distinguish themselves by their middle names. The batsman is MDKJ Perera and the spinner is MDK Perera.<br><br><br>
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