NPC 2023
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@Canes4life they will be pretty narly about the weekend loss no question ,fire has been lit i suspect
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@Canes4life said in NPC 2023:
@frugby I'm hoping the Wellington loss over the weekend was just a case of getting too complacent and not a sudden drop in form. I'm backing the Lions to hit back with some steel his week.
I absolutely expect that to happen, which is why I have picked them to win the game - but it'll be close I think.
Waikato aren't your usual 8th-placed team in a 14-team comp that will roll over first week of the playoffs. There a side who were ravaged by injuries, but have all of a sudden put some form together, beating both Auckland and Canterbury in the last three weeks in-between pummelling Otago.
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Burke
McClutchie has been on fire this season, guiding the Magpies to a few wins that didn't look likely.
Yep, but that doesn't change the fact Fergus Burke has been the best 10 in the competition.
Sorry, I didn't realise you were posting an objective team that isn't allowed any dissension.
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Burke
McClutchie has been on fire this season, guiding the Magpies to a few wins that didn't look likely.
Surprisingly he doesn't have a SR contract as of now.
Has not re signed with MP yet, maybe he was hanging out for a contract somewhere else.Not really surprising, sometimes NZ rugby just decides they don't like a player. He could be as. good as Fergus Burke and no NZ team will pick him up (in saying that I hope I'm wrong).
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Burke
McClutchie has been on fire this season, guiding the Magpies to a few wins that didn't look likely.
Yep, but that doesn't change the fact Fergus Burke has been the best 10 in the competition.
Sorry, I didn't realise you were posting an objective team that isn't allowed any dissension.
Sorry, didn't mean to offend. McClutchie has been good, no doubt, but do you think he has been better than Burke?
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Burke
McClutchie has been on fire this season, guiding the Magpies to a few wins that didn't look likely.
Surprisingly he doesn't have a SR contract as of now.
Has not re signed with MP yet, maybe he was hanging out for a contract somewhere else.Not really surprising, sometimes NZ rugby just decides they don't like a player. He could be as. good as Fergus Burke and no NZ team will pick him up (in saying that I hope I'm wrong).
Playing devils advocate here, could there be other factors at play? Was mentioned somewhat in gest that the whole Shield-gate may be an explanation as to why a lot of Hawke's Bay players have been contracted by the NZ sides in the past.
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Burke
McClutchie has been on fire this season, guiding the Magpies to a few wins that didn't look likely.
Surprisingly he doesn't have a SR contract as of now.
Has not re signed with MP yet, maybe he was hanging out for a contract somewhere else.Who will MP run at 10 then I wonder?
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Burke
McClutchie has been on fire this season, guiding the Magpies to a few wins that didn't look likely.
Surprisingly he doesn't have a SR contract as of now.
Has not re signed with MP yet, maybe he was hanging out for a contract somewhere else.Not really surprising, sometimes NZ rugby just decides they don't like a player. He could be as. good as Fergus Burke and no NZ team will pick him up (in saying that I hope I'm wrong).
Playing devils advocate here, could there be other factors at play? Was mentioned somewhat in gest that the whole Shield-gate may be an explanation as to why a lot of Hawke's Bay players have been contracted by the NZ sides in the past.
That's some reaching to be honest, aside from McClutchie the home grown players worthy of Super contracts have them and we have a lot of PIs and fringe players with contracts for non NZ teams too.
I know you're only playing devils advocate, but how on earth would what happened on the weekend effect the historical selection of HB players?
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Burke
McClutchie has been on fire this season, guiding the Magpies to a few wins that didn't look likely.
Yep, but that doesn't change the fact Fergus Burke has been the best 10 in the competition.
Sorry, I didn't realise you were posting an objective team that isn't allowed any dissension.
Sorry, didn't mean to offend. McClutchie has been good, no doubt, but do you think he has been better than Burke?
Of course, in the games I've seen Burke play he hasn't played so outstandingly to overcome my bias to the guy who somehow steered us to 7 wins when we've been dysfunctional in most aspects of the game.
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Burke
McClutchie has been on fire this season, guiding the Magpies to a few wins that didn't look likely.
Surprisingly he doesn't have a SR contract as of now.
Has not re signed with MP yet, maybe he was hanging out for a contract somewhere else.Not really surprising, sometimes NZ rugby just decides they don't like a player. He could be as. good as Fergus Burke and no NZ team will pick him up (in saying that I hope I'm wrong).
Playing devils advocate here, could there be other factors at play? Was mentioned somewhat in gest that the whole Shield-gate may be an explanation as to why a lot of Hawke's Bay players have been contracted by the NZ sides in the past.
That's some reaching to be honest, aside from McClutchie the home grown players worthy of Super contracts have them and we have a lot of PIs and fringe players with contracts for non NZ teams too.
I know you're only playing devils advocate, but how on earth would what happened on the weekend effect the historical selection of HB players?
That is what I'm talking about though. There are a stack of Hawke's Bay players who went to MP after largely being unwanted by the other NZ sides (Presumably)... then you add in Cridge & Parsons, Hintz, Sapsford. There are a lot of handy guys, who I think it has been widely questioned why they don't have Super Rugby contracts. It isn't a criticism for me, a more of a, makes you think.
As for the historical element, it doesn't take a genius to workout that that celebration wasn't a one-off. It's an attitude to alcohol, not necessarily a Hawke's Bay thing at all, there are plenty of players who have ruined their careers because they can't manage themselves on the booze.
I guess my point was, it could be an explanation, because there has been a rotation of crap 10s going round Super Rugby, and McClutchie despite to the naked eye being one of the better 10s in the NPC has never got a look in.
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