Beer thread
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@nostrildamus said in Beer thread:
@nzzp said in Beer thread:
Ehhh, Russian Imperial Stouts at 12% or so are sensational
I hope you are talking about Russian beer not large fussy Russian women. Can't say I've tried them. Just hope they're better than Russian homemade vodka.
Interestingly, they are English beers (heavy stouts/porters) made for the court of Catherine the Great in Russia
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@nzzp said in Beer thread:
Interestingly, they are English beers (heavy stouts/porters) made for the court of Catherine the Great in Russia
Does sound interesting, I'll keep my eye (and paw) out..
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@nostrildamus said in Beer thread:
@nzzp said in Beer thread:
Interestingly, they are English beers (heavy stouts/porters) made for the court of Catherine the Great in Russia
Does sound interesting, I'll keep my eye (and paw) out..
You're a beer nerd too!
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https://www.blackrock.co.nz/component/spsimpleportfolio/33-crafted-oatmeal-stout
Latest Brew.
Put a couple of cans of this in the fermenter. Added a bag of coffee, chocolate shavings and 200 mls of rum all mixed in a gluggy mess.
Cannot wait to see how this bad boy turns out. Will look at leaving it for quite a few months ( meaning it will be summer by the time I drink it ) but Wellington being Wellington I’m sure it’ll turn on a few shitty, chilly, rainy, windy stout drinking days.
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Mangrove Jack's Craft Series Pilsner
Mangrove Jack's Craft Series Pilsner for brewing from BrewShop - your source of malt, hops, yeast and home brewing equipment.
Latest brew we’re putting down while we bottle the previous one and wait for the Stout to continue aging.
We’re going to spice things up ( literally ) and throw some chilies in. Will probably err on the side of conservative because we don’t want it to be undrinkable but a nice Pils with a chili kick sounds delightful.
Anyone here done this ? General consensus seems to be to chop the chillis up and chuck them in the mix ( as if you were dry hopping ) so that sounds simple.
If it tastes close to this….
Far North Chili Pils
Far North Chili Pilsner is Northland in a beer. A classic New Zealand-style Pilsner with a heroic dose of our fave Kiwi hot sauce, it's all capsicum, surf and summer out of the gate. Spicy and hoppy over a smooth cracker-like malt base, the finish is crisp and dry. It's the beer for every day,...
I’ll be a happy camper.
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@Bovidae said in Beer thread:
Mussel Inn's Heat Rash came with a whole chilli.
Yeah and I think the McLeods literally just chucked a bottle of Kaitaia Fire in the mix.
I’ve personally only seem Chili pilsners but in theory I guess it would work with any style of beer…..I have vague memories of a chili stout but not sure if it’s the alcohol playing tricks on my mind.
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@Bovidae said in Beer thread:
@MN5 I've drank the Far North Chili Pils as well, but I can't remember which of the two was spicier. Both very tasty though.
Yeah it’s getting the “kick” right.
I don’t mind the alcohol content being a bit lower than what I have been brewing if the flavour from the chili is right but again, I don’t want to blow my head off.
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
A 440ml can should NOT be $12/$13.
The economics absolutely suck. I agree with the sentiment, but the margins are shit, the risk is high, and you just don't see brewers driving around in porsches.
Hell, Epic just went under. And they were OG, and very successful. But cashflow killed them. It's a damn hard market. Inflation is screwing everyone.
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@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
A 440ml can should NOT be $12/$13.
The economics absolutely suck. I agree with the sentiment, but the margins are shit, the risk is high, and you just don't see brewers driving around in porsches.
Hell, Epic just went under. And they were OG, and very successful. But cashflow killed them. It's a damn hard market. Inflation is screwing everyone.
Absolutely.
At ground level there is also that risk that the “treat” beer that the potential future Mrs MN5 gets me every now and again isn’t actually that good and I’ll never have it again !
One of the stouts she had to remortgage the house to buy for me was particularly disappointing as I recall.
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
A 440ml can should NOT be $12/$13.
The economics absolutely suck. I agree with the sentiment, but the margins are shit, the risk is high, and you just don't see brewers driving around in porsches.
Hell, Epic just went under. And they were OG, and very successful. But cashflow killed them. It's a damn hard market. Inflation is screwing everyone.
Absolutely.
At ground level there is also that risk that the “treat” beer that the potential future Mrs MN5 gets me every now and again isn’t actually that good and I’ll never have it again !
One of the stouts she had to remortgage the house to buy for me was particularly disappointing as I recall.
never too late to get into homebrew
Brewing up a sensational hazy at the moment, has half a kilo of hops in 25L.
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@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
A 440ml can should NOT be $12/$13.
The economics absolutely suck. I agree with the sentiment, but the margins are shit, the risk is high, and you just don't see brewers driving around in porsches.
Hell, Epic just went under. And they were OG, and very successful. But cashflow killed them. It's a damn hard market. Inflation is screwing everyone.
Absolutely.
At ground level there is also that risk that the “treat” beer that the potential future Mrs MN5 gets me every now and again isn’t actually that good and I’ll never have it again !
One of the stouts she had to remortgage the house to buy for me was particularly disappointing as I recall.
never too late to get into homebrew
Brewing up a sensational hazy at the moment, has half a kilo of hops in 25L.
Am I reading this right ? That seems ridiculous ?
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
A 440ml can should NOT be $12/$13.
The economics absolutely suck. I agree with the sentiment, but the margins are shit, the risk is high, and you just don't see brewers driving around in porsches.
Hell, Epic just went under. And they were OG, and very successful. But cashflow killed them. It's a damn hard market. Inflation is screwing everyone.
Absolutely.
At ground level there is also that risk that the “treat” beer that the potential future Mrs MN5 gets me every now and again isn’t actually that good and I’ll never have it again !
One of the stouts she had to remortgage the house to buy for me was particularly disappointing as I recall.
never too late to get into homebrew
Brewing up a sensational hazy at the moment, has half a kilo of hops in 25L.
Am I reading this right ? That seems ridiculous ?
you know how you were comlpaining about your high hop high alcohol $13 beers....???
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
A 440ml can should NOT be $12/$13.
The economics absolutely suck. I agree with the sentiment, but the margins are shit, the risk is high, and you just don't see brewers driving around in porsches.
Hell, Epic just went under. And they were OG, and very successful. But cashflow killed them. It's a damn hard market. Inflation is screwing everyone.
Absolutely.
At ground level there is also that risk that the “treat” beer that the potential future Mrs MN5 gets me every now and again isn’t actually that good and I’ll never have it again !
One of the stouts she had to remortgage the house to buy for me was particularly disappointing as I recall.
never too late to get into homebrew
Brewing up a sensational hazy at the moment, has half a kilo of hops in 25L.
Am I reading this right ? That seems ridiculous ?
and yes, it's a bit crazy. Right at the top end of what I'll usually add - but it does make a damn good beer.
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@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
A 440ml can should NOT be $12/$13.
The economics absolutely suck. I agree with the sentiment, but the margins are shit, the risk is high, and you just don't see brewers driving around in porsches.
Hell, Epic just went under. And they were OG, and very successful. But cashflow killed them. It's a damn hard market. Inflation is screwing everyone.
Absolutely.
At ground level there is also that risk that the “treat” beer that the potential future Mrs MN5 gets me every now and again isn’t actually that good and I’ll never have it again !
One of the stouts she had to remortgage the house to buy for me was particularly disappointing as I recall.
never too late to get into homebrew
Brewing up a sensational hazy at the moment, has half a kilo of hops in 25L.
Am I reading this right ? That seems ridiculous ?
and yes, it's a bit crazy. Right at the top end of what I'll usually add - but it does make a damn good beer.
I was told that amount of hops would be crazy in terms of bitterness……
But fuck it, that might be my next brew !
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
I was told that amount of hops would be crazy in terms of bitterness……
depends when you add them.
Interestingly, this recipe (which I can't find online any more) has no hops in the boil. There's a hop stand, and then a monster charge of hops after fermentation is largely completed. My mate is a mad hop head and has reset how much hops you can put into a beer ... they're damn good, but pretty expensive to brew (for homebrew prices :D)
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Haven't posted here for a while so I thought I'd share a few things I've been doing with recent all grain brewing. All the talk of big hop additions caught my attention so thought I'd jump in.
After a bit of a break from the mad brewing in May, in August and September I completed 4 brews:
SAC2 DDH @8.8% ABV with a total of 692g of Hops (Simcoe, Amarillo, Cascade and used in the 1st dry hop only, Citra)
Kiwi-tasm @8.0% ABV and a total of 559 g of Hops (Nelson Sauvin, Nectaron and Taiheke)
Nelson's Oats @7.5% with 450g of Nelson Sauvin (called Nelson's oats as it used only Golden Promise with three types of Oats as adjuncts - Big-O Malted Oats from Gladfield, Golden Naked Oats from Simpsons and plain old rolled Oats)
Phantas-Mc Hanlon - 8.1% with a total of 655g of Hops (Motueka, Taiheke, Moutere, Nectaron and Riwaka)A while ago I was challenged by fellow homebrewer to try using Incognito, the hop oil extract.
I took up the challenge and used it in a couple of brew days and I have to say, using the hop oil extract was quite sticky and messy but I did like the results as I didn't have to use the normal amount of pellet hops.
However, it is bloody expensive here in Aus, $60 for 100g, so I'm not sure I will use it too often.
One new method I've gotten into is Mash Hopping, that is adding some hops along with the grain to your basket/bag. There are some varietals that work better than others for this and one that is well known to work well in mash hopping is Cascade. So I've used Cascade once in a Hazy IPA along with Amarillo and Simcoe at the whirlpool and double dry hopping.
The Cascade mash hop worked really well, adding more fruit flavour and in particular, aroma to the final beer.
Another recent brew I also mash hopped but this time with Nelson Sauvin, a personal favourite hop of mine. The reason for using Nelson Sauvin was that I also used another new product for the first time, Phantasm Powder.
For those who haven't heard of this previously, Phantasm Powder is made from the skins of sauvignon blanc grapes from Marlborough. I believe that Garage Project has lead the charge in terms of commercial breweries on this revival of an old method that was primarily used to add more bitterness with less hop.
The use of Phantasm plus the mash hopping really lifted those white wine fruit flavours and aroma!
I kegged that particular beer, calling it Kiwi-tasm as it used all Kiwi Grain as well as hops, Nelson Sauvon and Nectaron and Taiheke.
Another new thing I've been using is the very recently released Non-GMO Thiol producing yeast from White Labs, WLP077 Tropical Yeast Blend.
Those who follow bring might know that thiols are sulfur based compounds that make up less than 1% of the essential oils in a hops cone but are powerful in particular smells like those that occur in fruity white wines such as Sav Blanc, Riesling, etc.
The various yeast makers have been experimenting for a while now including using genetic modifications to allow the yeast to free the thiols with are found not only in hops but also in some grains, just in smaller amounts.
Here in Aus like other jurisdictions, we do not allow genetically modified products into the country so White Labs came up with a number of strains that were found to naturally free thiols and have put them together in their new released Tropical Yeast Blend.
Having used it twice already, I have to say it is now my new favourite yeast as Kiwi-tasm, is now my favourite beer I've brewed which was also my 30th recipe to grain to glass brew.
