RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland
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@Halfout said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
Everyone is focusing on the possibility of them losing a back, but what happens if they replace all but one of their pack and then lose a couple of forwards in the second half. Do they pull the old blood or HIA stroke, or do they stick a back in there?
That could happen with a 6-2 as they like to change the whole lot at once
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@Derm-McCrum said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
I read in Irish media this morning there's a possibility that van der Flier may be dropped to the bench in favour of Beirne taking the 6 slot, O'Mahony at 7 and young McCarthy as TH lock to partner Ryan.
Big call
VdF is a significantly better player than POM
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@mariner4life said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
I read in Irish media this morning there's a possibility that van der Flier may be dropped to the bench in favour of Beirne taking the 6 slot, O'Mahony at 7 and young McCarthy as TH lock to partner Ryan.
Big call
VdF is a significantly better player than POM
Horses for courses
Ireland to contain SA rather than play the Ireland way?
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Playing a slow blindside at openside is a terribly negative option.
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@Duluth said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
If Kwagga does need to play in the backs where would he play? 12? Wing?
Back in his 7s days he played both as a forward and out wide. I reckon they’d keep him in the midfield. He’s not the biggest guy but he packs a punch.
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I don’t really understand how people think this is unfair or if ads are not within the spirit of the game.
Sa are playing to their strengths and playing to they way the game is today.
2 hour plus stop start rugby games and big emphasis on set piece and kicking and playing without the ball mean that SA can get away with it.
Fair play to them.
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To be honest I think the concern is that a 7:1 split will encourage bigger NFL style forwards who will blow themselves out in 45/50 minutes, leading to bigger collisions and more head injuries, rather than SA not playing fair. I think it’s a justifiable concern at a time when the health of players and the potential financial impact for World Rugby and individual Unions are major worries.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@NTA said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
Le Croc Sportif
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The 7-1. Most first tier teams have athletes out there who are the fittest that have ever been out on the field. How many first class games should each one of these players be playing per year? 354045??? Player management within full squad … Coupled with injuries and the return from injury... Players in form... It’s a squad game these days. And we are very blessed to have very decent depth. Rassie is just using it within laws.7-1 is pretty cooked 😂 But what do I know about player management in the professional era….🤷🏼♂️We will all know shortly if the gamble paid off or not …🤞🏻
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And as I say, the game as it is today plays into their hands. If the game was different then they would have a different composition.
I don’t think SA’s bench is the problem around big munters, big collisions player welfare. It is an outcome of the game we have today.
The game needs radical change of it is to get away from the current power based obsession and advantage it provides
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
A tad surprised Sheehan not starting but probably because of the recent injury. Crowley ahead of Byrne for 10 reserve. Only 1 Ulster player (Henderson). When you win game after game you don’t change what isn’t broken so Irish starting XV picks itself these days.
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It’s new now, but you know how these innovations are refined and modified. For instance a guys optimum weight for 60 minutes might be 115 kg but if he’s only expected to be on the pitch for 45 perhaps it can be stretched to 120 kg or a little more. We’ve already seen it with props to a certain extent with the three replacement front rowers, but it’s frightening to think of backrowers putting on another 5 to 10 kg. I have no objection whatsoever to SA maxing their advantage within the current laws, but I do have concerns about where it might lead.
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I’m picking Ireland. Reckon for once they will be the business at the RWC. If Ireland man up in the forwards and diffuse the bombs what else do SA have to offer?
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World rugby needs to the game for it to be more attractive to an audience to watch and to new people to play.
At the moment they are presenting a game that has been mutated into something that is not the above.
We all know this and it has been said many times before by many people.
What is it going to take? It seems as though the only thing that will make them change is losing a law suit that will cost them billions.
The only surprise about the SA 7-1 bench is that it is not a 8-0 bench!
