NPC 2023
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They'll be comparing clicks relative other articles on the site.
Anyway here's the line mentioning why the paper doesn't cover NPC scores anymore (this story wasn't really discussing the match, it was more about the decline of the comp)
The score — in case anyone is wondering, since an absence of reader interest means they’re no longer reported on this site — was 43-21
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@ploughboy said in NPC 2023:
funny thing i know club teams whos budget is $500000 and most at least $180000
budget isn't the same as salary though - presumably those clubs aren't paying their players.
500k is a lot!
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Based on what I was told some club players get paid a sum comparable to NPC contracts. It might be the same club @ploughboy is talking about.
Like the SR salary cap, the NPC salary cap is largely meaningless if you are just topping up player's SR contracts. That becomes more of an issue with the "haves" and "have nots" where the quality of the players you have in your squad is even wider between say, an Auckland and a Southland.
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Like the SR salary cap, the NPC salary cap is largely meaningless if you are just topping up player's SR contracts. That becomes more of an issue with the "haves" and "have nots" where the quality of the players you have in your squad is even wider between say, an Auckland and a Southland.
Which creates other problems too. Auckland had ~27 SR players, plus a couple of NZ u20's they wanted in the squad.. leaving almost no room for selections from club form
I think the Cantabs might be even worse ~30 SR players?
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@Duluth and then any ABs on the books are likely paid minimal and NZR pay it anyway, and then they don't often run in thier provincial colours anyway.
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i know i said budget but this is what i was told clubs are spending on there top team and does not include any other teams they have. . i know of at least two clubs where every player gets paid for each appearance. the person who told me lead me to believe that all clubs in this comp are paying players and this was the amounts they were spending.
@Bovidae im sure we will be talking about the same club and im sure you can guess the other. -
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@Stargazer thats a handy pickup
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If it was a provincial competition Taranaki would pick the next best lock from their local clubs
But it stopped being that a while ago
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Have Taranaki got more injuries at lock, or not expecting Lord back anytime soon?
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@Duluth If provinces could only field local players, the competition would always favour the big provinces, who have a much larger player pool. Auckland would have too many players and talented, deserving players would miss out, while a small province wouldn't have sufficient players of an adequate level to field a competitive team.
The competition wouldn't be fair.
Fielding local players should be the starting point, but it isn't always realistic.
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You were just complaining about a HB player going to Southland and an Aucklander playing for HB. It's the same point
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@Duluth No, it isn't exactly the same point, because the player who left for Southland was already contracted to the Magpies and is an NPC level player with sufficient experience.
Fielding a local player in that case was realistic. It isn't always realistic, because local players may not be of an adequate level. I don't know, for example, whether there is a lock of adequate level available in Taranaki to fill that spot now taken by Franklin.
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@Stargazer said in NPC 2023:
Fielding a local player in that case was realistic. It isn't always realistic, because local players may not be of an adequate level.
Then the province should lose games
Depends if we want a provincial competition or a retarded franchise competition.
I can't believe you want to gut a core concept of the NPC like this. Club flows to NPC. It's the strength of NZ rugby blah blah blah
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but wouldnt players further down the pecking order at a big union move around to the smaller ones (properly move and play club, not just fly in for game day) to get game time and hopefully get a fully professional contract?
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Friendly draw for Canterbury.
Play Wellington in Chch who are coming off of a storm week consisting of 2 Shield games.
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Paladin as well, but doesn’t have their badge
Here's the paladin store. The other team with a retro jersey is Harbour https://nz.paladin.sport/products/
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@KiwiMurph pretty shit for Wellington having one of their most important games of the season at the end of a storm week.
The scheduler must have been a Cantab.
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@Stargazer said in NPC 2023:
I haven't checked all union's socials, but some of them are now selling retro jerseys (maybe only those who get their gear from Paladin?). The three I saw on my time line:
Gilbert has had a Retro "inspired" one for us for a couple of year
My biggest problem with Gilbert is all their images are computer generated, not the real thing, so you cant be 100% sure what it like in the flesh
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My bad.
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@Kiwiwomble said in NPC 2023:
but wouldnt players further down the pecking order at a big union move around to the smaller ones (properly move and play club, not just fly in for game day) to get game time and hopefully get a fully professional contract?
I don't think so - not enough money in it for someone to quit their day job on the gamble of maybe getting an NPC contract.
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@frugby ...but dont you just get a day job in the new city, people move around all the time and what people use to do when amature...these guys aren't all living with their parents
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@Kiwiwomble No, but for example even if you are a builder, say you are 24, have a wife and a couple of kids, it is a big call to move away without the promise of a contract.
Currently you get the likes of Josh Moorby or Freedom Vahaakolo who move without signing on the dotted line, but these are guys who aren't bound by anything.
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maybe things have changed, i know almost none of the friends i grew up with live in dunedin any more and those that do all did stints away whilst in their 20's, and that was without the excitment or even slim possibility of earning a professional rugby contract, most did stints in the uk or aus...just for fun, moved and found a job (yes, with partners and some with kids), at very least they all went to see what living somewhere else in Nz was like
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Friday night's game: Manawatu vs. Northland
Saturday night's game: Otago vs. Southland
Replay of last year's final? Sunday afternoon with one team playing their 3rd game of the week.
A shambles.
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@Tim tbf, Sunday arvo is a good time, but agree the scheduling is poor, IMO you have maybe 3 time slots: Friday night, Saturday 2.30 and 7 then a Sunday game, or if a Sunday game isn't ideal, do it 5.15 Saturday, all done, 2 games to games to each slot except maybe one of the Friday or Saturday which could be billed (and scheduled) for the match of the round.
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@taniwharugby The current time slot set up is literally perfect (barring the storm week) - why change it?
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With only seven games a weekend there shouldn’t be two games played at the same time
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@Duluth Yeah, although I think it's pretty good at the moment, it might be better if they chose to play
- 7.05pm Friday;
- 12.05pm, 2.05pm and 4.35pm Saturday, if the evening slot can't be used (for example, when there's a home test match) or 2.05pm, 4.35pm and 7.05pm Saturday if the evening slot can be used; and
- 12.05pm, 2.05pm and 4.35pm Sunday.
Keeping in mind that some slots can be difficult for some teams because of the (un)availability of flights, if they can't/don't want to stay overnight (due to costs).
They'd probably have to adjust the FPC schedule in that case as well (there are sometimes already 3 games at the same time), also taking into account that they should not schedule an NPC and FPC of the same province at the same time.
At the moment, the 12.05pm slot is only used for FPC.
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@Stargazer said in NPC 2023:
7.05pm Friday;
12.05pm, 2.05pm and 4.35pm Saturday, if the evening slot can't be used (for example, when there's a home test match) or 2.05pm, 4.35pm and 7.05pm Saturday if the evening slot can be used; and
12.05pm, 2.05pm and 4.35pm Sunday.Makes sense to me. Surely it would be better for Sky too
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As it costs a lot to open the doors at the major stadiums the PUs need to maximise the games played there. Playing the FPC game, or a Dev/U19 game as a NPC curtain-raiser makes perfect sense. You get extra people through the gate who might have to make a choice on what game to attend.
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What’s been the bigger upset ..
Northland v Ta$man or Manawatu v Auckland..?
Me thinks Manawatu v Auckland when you consider the salary cap alone .
Not to mention the bunch of no names ..
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