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    The first game kicks off in 2 days so i thought I'd check the official site

    Latest news? Zero on the NPC. All their time seems to be taken up with the Woman's competition, the last story on male rugby was on the 21st of June. Squad lists are of course still 2022

    What about the large media sites?

    Stuff in their provincial rugby section basically has no stories about the NPC (An AB story mentions players in warmup games, there is a Ranfurly Shield story and a couple of RTS articles in the last month)

    NZH? No real coverage, just a RTS story a while ago

    Rugbypass - I couldn't find anything about the NPC

    Newshub? Couldn't see anything

    1News - a story on Brad Shields. Within the last month a story on RTS and another on Crotty

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    @Duluth it's ridiculous in my opinion how much coverage and build up the NPC recieves these days. It's still a crucial competition in the NZ rugby landscape which has an uncanny knack of unearthing new talent each year. Plus the pure provincial rivalry is still hard to beat I reckon. I guess the focus this year is on the World Cup so most of the media attention seems to be directed there..but we still have a window where the NPC should take the front seat for a few weeks!

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    @J77 Don't underestimate the effect of the Women's FIFA World Cup either. Certainly attracting attention.

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    @frugby good point. Lots going on!

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    News sites that used to have provincial (sports) reporters fired them several years ago (well before Covid). In the smaller provinces, all the rugby news has to come from generalists who also write about other subjects than rugby and sports generally. In a year that the FIFA Women's World Cup takes place, the men's Rugby World Cup, but also non-sports events like the elections, aftermath of Cyclone Gabrielle etc, they don't have much time left.

    In the main centres, they have bad rugby writers (Wellington, for example) or rugby writers who prefer to focuss the All Blacks.

    The media attention, and also the articles on the NZR site, relating to the FPC only started a few days before the competition started, so at least they're staying consistent and are waiting until a few days before the NPC kicks off. The FPC gets at most two articles per weekend in Stuff (nothing in NZH); that will probably be reduced to one as soon as the NPC starts. The NPC will get a few more per weekend.

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    @Stargazer

    It gets a little worse each year..

    Hopefully the official site is about to post some content. They usually have a preview article explaining the squad changes etc

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    @Duluth Bunnings must be stoked with all the promotion and ROI.

    Go back pre-covid and the site used to have some basic player stats (tackles, turnovers etc) but I think they even ditched these in recent years?

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    @taniwharugby The individual player stats are now in the articles with the team lists. Very user unfriendly IMO.

    See for an example (click on a player's name): https://www.provincial.rugby/news/bunnings-npc-round-one-team-lists/

    I assume ESPN and Rugbypass will again have stats for the NPC, too.

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    @Stargazer I know there was a change of what they provided, so maybe they only ditched it for a short period?

    But lack of decent stats has long been a bugbear of mine, I love looking at all that stuff.

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    @Duluth said in NPC 2023:

    @Stargazer

    It gets a little worse each year..

    Hopefully the official site is about to post some content. They usually have a preview article explaining the squad changes etc

    pretty depressing, if its not the AB's then NZR doesnt seem to care, i understand if media outlets have downsized and re focused...but you would have thought the actual unions and NZR would have a vested interest in producing their own content

    really stupid stuff like, i knew it started this week, and so went onto the otago social to see who we were playing...all the posts about the actual draw going back months are on/y about the home games...would have thought there would be posts every day this week counting down

    i would have thought for an away game some easy stuff would be partnering with a local pub to get our away followers together or something

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    @Kiwiwomble I have the impression that NZR leaves most of the promotion/publicity stuff to the individual, provincial unions and some of those provincial unions are better at it than others!

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    @Stargazer who actually runs the NPC? is it NZR?

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    @Kiwiwomble Yes, NZR, runs the NPC, FPC and Heartland comp. Who else could it be? But the individual provinces are responsible for organising their home venue(s), ticket sales, promotion of home games, their facilities and obviously their players etc.

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    This has been uploaded today.

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    no clue if this is real or not

    but i wonder if there was two NPC funding deals available. NZR will distribute X to each union if NZR is responsible for all the promotion, or Y if the Unions take on the lions share. And the unions chose Y. So there isn't much in the NZR budget for marketing for this comp

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    @Stargazer well, in lots of competitions around the world its an independent body like the English Football League or run by the clubs them selves such as the Premier league

    so not a completely stupid question to double check, especially when NZR itself does so little to promote the comp, as you say leaving it largely to the unions themselves

    @mariner4life guess that would make sense

    the whole rugby marketing thing just seems to flawed, even in super how not only is the the individual team stuff and how they all do if differently...but then the 5 NZ teams do stuff together...but the aussies ones dont do as much...but some...and the two others stand alone....its very disjointed

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    The sad thing is that it doesn't appear that the unions themselves are trying particularly hard to promote the NPC either...out counting their silverlake money and hoping it lasts forever?

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    @Windows97 I think the silver lake money came with conditions around development and grass roots didn't it, not here's a million, go hard...

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    @taniwharugby would love to see some sort of program or timetable around what those conditions were

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