Japan vs Samoa 2023

[Stargazer]

I agree. Should be a red.

They don't apply the TMO protocol that we've been used to in SRP and U20 Ch'ship. Give a yellow and leave it to the TMO to upgrade or not.

[Tim]

Leitch charged hard into that shoulder first. No mitigation.

[Tim]

Was that a 20 min red card, or a full game one?

[Stargazer]

@Tim Full game.

[gt12]

That was mad by Leitch. WTAF.

[Stargazer]

Time for the 2nd half to start. The commentators now start talking about the red card being harsh. Geez.

[Stargazer]

Toala not playing his best game.

[Tordah]

@Stargazer said in Japan vs Samoa 2023:

Time for the 2nd half to start. The commentators now start talking about the red card being harsh. Geez.

Yeah, that was a pretty clear red and they should reserve these kinds of comments for situations like the Angus Ta'avao red vs Ireland (travesty)

[gt12]

@Stargazer said in Japan vs Samoa 2023:

Time for the 2nd half to start. The commentators now start talking about the red card being harsh. Geez.

Japanese commentators were pretty clear that it was a clear red, at least from what I heard (only started watching from half time)

[gt12]

Japan staying in this. Kick this penalty and they’ll have a 5 point lead with 20 to go

[gt12]

Not for long, Samoa on top now with 9 left. Japan’s only chance is probably territory and a penalty

[African Monkey]

Man Samoa have made this very hard.

[Stargazer]

Having watched this game, I'm somehow not looking forward to the RWC.

[African Monkey]

Taleni Seu was huge today. Easily MOTM for me. Samoa have a fairly handy side and could surprise as they spend more time together.

I was also impressed with Samoa's scrum. Paul Alo Emile and Jordan Lay monstered the Japanese scrum.

[Tordah]

Samoan lineout was something like 6/16 of their own throws, worst lineout performance I've seen, no hyperbole. Handling was atrocious from both sides. Fitting it ended with "check check"-TMO pointing out a neck roll. Shit game to watch

[Dan54]

@Tordah Geez mate, I enjoyed the game. TMO was making his precence felt, but in general I have really enjoyed this and the Fiji/Tonga game! Putting it down as good day of rugby, been standing out in bloody cold day and watched a good 1st XV game, and then came home and watched these 2 games having an ejoyable craft beer or 2!!

[MiketheSnow]

Japan could have and should have won that despite being down to 14

[Stargazer]

@MiketheSnow Nah, they struggled to score tries. It was 3 - 1 to Samoa in tries and Japan's only try was awarded after a knock-on. Samoa deserved their win; it was their ill-discipline and ref's pedantry that kept Japan in it. Without Leitch's red card the result might have been different.

[MiketheSnow]

@Stargazer said in Japan vs Samoa 2023:

@MiketheSnow Nah, they struggled to score tries. It was 3 - 1 to Samoa in tries and Japan's only try was awarded after a knock-on. Samoa deserved their win; it was their ill-discipline and ref's pedantry that kept Japan in it. Without Leitch's red card the result might have been different.

Someone who could kick a drop goal would have been good

And try scoring was difficult because of being a man down and Samoa committing pens

[Stargazer]

@MiketheSnow Yeah, but you said that they should have won despite being down to 14. That's the part I disagree with. Being a man down would have been a valid argument if you had said they should have won full stop (so with 15 men).

IMO, with Japan being a man down, Samoa could and should have won that more easily. They made it unnecessarily hard by giving away so many penalties.