Black Ferns 2023
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@Auckman What if Player B wanted a Christian Cross, and player C a pink ribbon etc etc. It is not what she wanted but the fact that once you let one player do it, then they'll all want their own little bit. It is a corporate contract, not a vehicle for individuals to spread their beliefs and views. That they can do in their own time
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@Machpants said in Black Ferns 2023:
@Auckman What if Player B wanted a Christian Cross, and player C a pink ribbon etc etc. It is not what she wanted but the fact that once you let one player do it, then they'll all want their own little bit. It is a corporate contract, not a vehicle for individuals to spread their beliefs and views. That they can do in their own time
Hardly comparing apples with apples.
Although with women’s rugby there would be a fair few 🌈 if they all had a choice.
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That's why she got turned down, is a corporate contact. NZR pay the players for their image rights, and they have the right to withdraw from anything they want to. But you can't have players pushing their portfolios into that stuff, TFD. You're either in our out, don't like it, then take the (significant) pay cut
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Not commenting on this issue specifically, but I've rather gone off Ruby.
Got a few too many tickets on herself.
Yes, she's marketable, but the game would go on without her.
Her ego is writing cheques her body can't cash ...
Edit: and yes, it may be tall poppy syndrome, but she walked away for (nearly) a year. Most of the other "super" stars stuck with it and delivered without grandstanding.
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@booboo said in Black Ferns 2023:
@Machpants said in Black Ferns 2023:
TFD
TFD? Should that be TFB?
Too fucking difficult
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@Machpants thanks
Thought "too fucking bad"...
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@booboo said in Black Ferns 2023:
@Machpants thanks
Thought "too fucking bad"...
You need more training in TLAs
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@Machpants I'm old ...
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@Machpants said in Black Ferns 2023:
Three Letter Abbreviations
Upvote for "Abbreviations" rather than "Acronyms".
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@booboo said in Black Ferns 2023:
Not commenting on this issue specifically, but I've rather gone off Ruby.
Got a few too many tickets on herself.
Yes, she's marketable, but the game would go on without her.
Her ego is writing cheques her body can't cash ...
Edit: and yes, it may be tall poppy syndrome, but she walked away for (nearly) a year. Most of the other "super" stars stuck with it and delivered without grandstanding.
Deliberately grandstanding though. She is hugely passionate about promoting and growing the women’s game and got an opportunity through her high profile to keep pushing after the RWC.
Not a decision that all would take but an unusual set of circumstances.Coming to the end of her career
Was pursued by broadcaster to take part behind the microphone
Has done broadcasting courses in the past with a view to that being her post playing career.
Offered a chance to cash in before rejoining the BFs (plenty of the men do similar with sabbaticals)
Probably pushed a bit far in asking for the 🌈 but she can ask, if she got pissy about the answer then that’s not right.I don’t see it as ego. More created opportunities.
This rainbow thing is the only reported time that has indicated thoughts of being bigger than the norm. She may be outspoken but stays humble.Playing wise she’s better off in the US (others are going there too) than being on the lonely wing of an FPC side that struggles to get her ball. At least Sevens will sharpen her up again.
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@Crucial - I agree re: Ruby. She’s just probably sick of years of lip service from the NZRU and knew that “business as usual” just wouldn’t cut it after the success of the World Cup. She’ll retire in a few years and would’ve kicked herself if she didn’t use her huge profile and leverage to push the NZRU to grow the women’s game. I understand part of her contract conditions was the expansion of Super Rugby Aupiki season and proper pay for Aupiki players. That’s not a person that’s all about herself in my book. Anyway she’ll be back for the WXV1 later this year.
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A few surprises.
https://www.allblacks.com/news/first-black-ferns-squad-of-2023-named/
Unavailable for selection due to injury: Awhina Tangen Wainohu (neck), Charmaine McMenamin (concussion), Hazel Tubic (knee), Layla Sae (ankle), Patricia Maliepo (foot), Santo Taumata (knee).
Unavailable for selection due to sabbatical: Ruby Tui.
