Crusaders v Force
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@antipodean said in Crusaders v Force:
I think the only thing we'll learn from this fixture is Cron made an error taking the Force coaching role.
I think a Super Rugby head coaching role was the logical and obvious decision for Simon Cron. He took over the Force when they were at a low level and any improvement will enhance his future prospects.
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@Chris-B said in Crusaders v Force:
The threat Will Jordan offers is almost night and day to Fergus Burke - drawing defenders and opening gaps.
I like Ferg, but he is a natural 1st 5 and I don’t think will reach great heights as a fullback option.
The other great thing about Will is that he’s robust in the tackle too. He’s harder to put to ground than Ferg. Was great just seeing him out there again.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Crusaders v Force:
@Chris-B said in Crusaders v Force:
The threat Will Jordan offers is almost night and day to Fergus Burke - drawing defenders and opening gaps.
I like Ferg, but he is a natural 1st 5 and I don’t think will reach great heights as a fullback option.
The other great thing about Will is that he’s robust in the tackle too. He’s harder to put to ground than Ferg. Was great just seeing him out there again.
Yeah - Will's got more size than Ferg and elite speed. Makes a massive difference.
Ferg is like playing Colin Slade at wing, but a bit worse.
I never got around to posting this last time I was involved in the weight discussions, but TJ's assessment is bang on - IMO of course!!
'Came of age in that third quarter': Will Jordan earns Foster's trust
All Black flyer Will Jordan continued his blistering try-scoring pace in Cardiff, coming up with a stunning long-range individual effort to break the game open against Wales with a little over a quarter of the game to go.
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For me Fergus Burke did a great job with no real experience in that position for the Crusaders and got us through a bit of a crisis.
Now Will is back Burke can go back to cover First Five and hopefully gets some game time there as he will fill the No.1 First Five spot in 2024. -
@Chris said in Crusaders v Force:
For me Fergus Burke did a great job with no real experience in that position for the Crusaders and got us through a bit of a crisis.
Now Will is back Burke can go back to cover First Five and hopefully gets some game time there as he will fill the No.1 First Five spot in 2024.Leave out the word 'great' and I agree with you.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders v Force:
@Chris said in Crusaders v Force:
For me Fergus Burke did a great job with no real experience in that position for the Crusaders and got us through a bit of a crisis.
Now Will is back Burke can go back to cover First Five and hopefully gets some game time there as he will fill the No.1 First Five spot in 2024.Leave out the word 'great' and I agree with you.
Considering the injuries around Burke lack of playing at FB I reckon he saved our arse a bit we were left with Fihaki as the other option.
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@Chris said in Crusaders v Force:
@Crazy-Horse said in Crusaders v Force:
@Chris said in Crusaders v Force:
For me Fergus Burke did a great job with no real experience in that position for the Crusaders and got us through a bit of a crisis.
Now Will is back Burke can go back to cover First Five and hopefully gets some game time there as he will fill the No.1 First Five spot in 2024.Leave out the word 'great' and I agree with you.
Considering the injuries around Burke lack of playing at FB I reckon he saved our arse a bit we were left with Fihaki as the other option.
Agree 100%. He did the job and didn't stuff it up.
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@Kirwan I can understand that his defence maybe be the most questionable aspect of his game, in terms of pure gamebreaking ability, he is pretty much unsurpassed. It was a very tactical decision to rest him for so much of last season, in particular the EOYT. Had he toured we would probably have gone through unbeaten and had a target on our heads. The only reason he hasn't been up for player of the year is purely based on timing. Dude is an absolute weapon. Also nice to see him assisting Macca's development, who also looks promising.
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@SBW1 said in Crusaders v Force:
It was a very tactical decision to rest him for so much of last season, in particular the EOYT. Had he toured we would probably have gone through unbeaten and had a target on our heads.
We did go through EOYT unbeaten. Didn't lose.
Jordan had Covid which is why he missed Ireland test 1 and then an inner ear issue forced him to miss the End of Year tour (and hasn't played until last week). In what world is that tactical?
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@KiwiMurph I wasn't referring to the Irish test however that still confirms my view on timing is the only reason he hasn't won a player of the year award. Technically we may have gone through unbeaten, that draw against England really would have put a dampener on the tour, it would be foolish to say otherwise.
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@KiwiMurph said in Crusaders v Force:
@SBW1 So what was tactical about Jordan missing the EOYT? Fozzie would rather go under the radar than play Jordan?
Presumably Crusaders have been in on this tactical rest plan too whilst losing to the Chiefs twice without Jordan?
My head is spinning trying to keep up with this.
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@Chris The latest loss was still a big improvement from the opening round when they were smashed at home. Saders could have easily won, they were in it for a good portion of that game. Crusaders have had a bit of a patchy season and have had to deal with a lot of injuries. Fortuneately they are getting players back on the paddock and playing into a bit of form. Would be really good to secure home finals, that would be a big boost. Yes they have been deliberately resting their players in many instances.
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@SBW1 said in Crusaders v Force:
@Chris The latest loss was still a big improvement from the opening round when they were smashed at home. Saders could have easily won, they were in it for a good portion of that game. Crusaders have had a bit of a patchy season and have had to deal with a lot of injuries. Fortuneately they are getting players back on the paddock and playing into a bit of form. Would be really good to secure home finals, that would be a big boost. Yes they have been deliberately resting their players in many instances.
The winner of this game against the Blues will probably secure 2nd place and a home QF and SF especially if the Chiefs can knock over the Brumbies in Canberra.
List of injured players this season is vast 3/4 of the squad has been injured for at least 3 games during the season so far.
At least Williams injury is not a bad one from the Force game.
Brewis and Whitelock should be back for this weekend.
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@nostrildamus The game against the Blues will be interesting for sure. He is still playing his way back into form, would be really happy to see Macca Springer emerge to be of a similar caliber. When looking at a highlights reel of Will Jordan some of his tries are quite freakish.
