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nzzp

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Really? That is extraordinary. I think I would want to buy it to see what a $33 bottle of beer taste like
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Funny, I was talking to someone about how craft beer is far more accessible than wine. $33 for 500ml is equivalent to a $50 bottle of 750ml wine. That is expensive, but wine goes up to thousands per bottle.
 
The most expensive craft beers are generally only slightly more than the entry level ones. Not saying they are cheap, but a craft beer enthusiasm is a hell of a lot cheaper to resource than developing a taste for wine or champagne!

taniwharugby

The Good George IPA I had last week is $14.00 for a 945ml bottle (think it was $9 for a pint where I had it)...so price pointed against a decent wine it is pretty good, and as it is bigger than most 500/700ml beer bottles, people think oh well you get more so you pay more.

mariner4life

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Monteiths used to be my favourite kiwi beer by far, they experimented a bit when others didn't but Macs followed suit and overall surpassed them in my opinion. I'll always have a soft spot for Summer and Radler, they certainly have their charms on a hot day but that "mid strength" shit you get at the Rugby is fucken awful. Macs Hop Rocker is far better than Monteiths Pilsner.
 
I like their "fancy" beers, Double IPA is a goody but recent history would suggest Macs will surpass them with their effort at the same.
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I love Monteiths Pilsner, and consume it in large quantities when ever i come home.

nzzp

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The Good George IPA I had last week is $14.00 for a 945ml bottle (think it was $9 for a pint where I had it)...so price pointed against a decent wine it is pretty good, and as it is bigger than most 500/700ml beer bottles, people think oh well you get more so you pay more.
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Good George is well priced.

The point I was making was entry level craft beer is about $10-15/L. Very expensive craft beer is about $30-$40/L. 
 
With wine, entry level = $10/L, and expensive = $10,000/L.
 
Conclusion: wine can be an expensive hobby :)

MN5

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I find both Monteiths and Macs a sort of half way house between the mass produced big brewery muck and the more flavoursome (and expensive) small batch breweries.
 
What's the highest price anyone's seen out there? I saw a 500 ml of something at Supa Liquor at the weekend for $33/bottle [pass]
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I think that's a very apt description, definitely better than Export, Tui, Speights and shit like that but not at the level of "Craft" beer as such and at 12.99 a half doz it's terrific value if you're looking at having a session.
 
I spent 40 bucks ( about 25$ more than normal ) on a bottle of nice Pinot for my second date with the better half. It was nice but she's from the Hutt and would drink any old shit so we laugh at the money I wasted. As I said, it was a very nice red and several steps up from a $8.99 bottle on special at New World but I refuse to believe a bottle costing several hundred or even up to a thousand is conversely that much better. Wine piston wristed gibbons will say a bottle costing five hundy is far superior than that 80 dollar swill but I honestly think they'd be talking out of their arses.

taniwharugby

I recall reading an article in the UK when I was living there and you could go to a restaurant in London and pay Â£120+ for a bottle of Cloudy Bay SB, despite being able to purchase it in supermarkets or Offies there for significantly less (and also other much better wines for less also), it was just the drink to be seen drinking at the time...

dogmeat

Coincidentally I have just received an email offer for a bottle of Spanish plonk @ $1200/bottle.
 
Why so expensive - well Robert Parker (McCaw of wine reviewers) rates it one of the most exciting wines he's ever drunk and only 500 cases are produced each year. 
 
There is undoubtedly a lot of wankery around wine but it is definitely creeping into the craft beer scene as well.
 
At peak my cellar had well over 1,000 bottles and yes I did buy $300 bottles of wine. Mainly because it was the only way I was going to get to try incredibly rare wines.
 
I have drunk $1500 / wine (I know that makes me sound a piston wristed gibbon but you all knew that already right - and I didn't pay for it ). It was sensational but no way was it the same value as 15 x $100/bottles. But I could tell the difference. Which I can't between a $40/litre craft beer and a $15.
 
Bottle age really changes wine - for the better if you get the timing right. Not so much beer.
 
I would rather have a really good $200 wine that 2 cases of $8. Same as I'd pay $20 for a Sculpin Ballast Point and rather go without than drink Waikato

MN5

Disagree a wee bit about the beer, mates and I did a few Stouts in amongst our other brews and intend to age them for a good while to see what they're like. For extra beer wank points we even added 500 grams of Columbian coffee to the mix. We're advised they will get better the longer we age them but the proof will be in the tasting.
 
Like any booze much of it is down to the individual, I think Parrot Dog is really average but others rave about it. Each to their own.

taniwharugby

think I heard Parrot dog is having to move to larger premises as they have outgrown current ones

MN5

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think I heard Parrot dog is having to move to larger premises as they have outgrown current ones
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You sure you don't mean Panhead ? they've been bought by Lion or DB ( can't remember which )

taniwharugby

def not Panhead....
 
looks like they need to move, so trying to raise some pingers via crowdfunding

Crucial

Panhead have masses of expansion room without moving. They have already doubled size twice I think. 
Easy when you set up in an abandoned tyre factory. 
Parrotdog where in a small space in central Welly.

MN5

I'll be watching Panheads progress with interest, they are popping up all over the place in pubs now.
 
I think Garage Project will look at staying "boutique" though, how they brew from their tiny premises is anyones guess. They use it as part of their marketing brilliantly though.

MN5

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def not Panhead....
 
looks like they need to move, so trying to raise some pingers via crowdfunding

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Thomas Waldrom at 1:12

MN5

Good night for a Stout in the nations capital so am enjoying an Aro Noir from Garage Project as we speak. I really do love the quirkiness of them and the fact that they obviously spare nothing in terms of marketing but wonder what non wellington based ferners think of that ( personally have many a fond memory of parties on said street )
 
At last count I think they had close to 40 different beers to choose from, I would have tried 7-8 at best. Contrast that with Rocky Knob who have only two and package them in shitty looking plastic bottles......but the latters APA is fantastic.

nzzp

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Good night for a Stout in the nations capital so am enjoying an Aro Noir from Garage Project as we speak. I really do love the quirkiness of them and the fact that they obviously spare nothing in terms of marketing but wonder what non wellington based ferners think of that ( personally have many a fond memory of parties on said street )
 
At last count I think they had close to 40 different beers to choose from, I would have tried 7-8 at best. Contrast that with Rocky Knob who have only two and package them in shitty looking plastic bottles......but the latters APA is fantastic.
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Funnily enough, I had a ROcky Knob Undies last night. I was driving, it was 3.3% and hoppy. ALtogether not terrible for a lighter IPA style beer.
 
In answer to your question, Garage Project are incredible but a bit out there for me. My favourite brewery would be Liberty - consistently well made beers, including C!tra.

MN5

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Funnily enough, I had a ROcky Knob Undies last night. I was driving, it was 3.3% and hoppy. ALtogether not terrible for a lighter IPA style beer.
 
In answer to your question, Garage Project are incredible but a bit out there for me. My favourite brewery would be Liberty - consistently well made beers, including C!tra. 
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Fair call. Never tried the one you've mentioned. I do wonder if all their beers are a bit much, I mean they have a ridiculous selection really as opposed to Panhead who really keep it simple with a few ( excellent ) choices......
 
Anyone going to Beervana this weekend ? I'm going overseas so will miss it but FB informs me that heaps of the breweries will be there in force.

Stockcar86

Not a beer review, but I was in Wellington for a couple of days last week. Good selection of beers at Brewhaus, but my favourite place was LBQ - great atmosphere, and Lester behind the bar had great suggestions for beer (and bourbon to finish the evening off)
 
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Duluth

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Good night for a Stout in the nations capital so am enjoying an Aro Noir from Garage Project as we speak. I really do love the quirkiness of them and the fact that they obviously spare nothing in terms of marketing but wonder what non wellington based ferners think of that ( personally have many a fond memory of parties on said street )
 
At last count I think they had close to 40 different beers to choose from, I would have tried 7-8 at best. Contrast that with Rocky Knob who have only two and package them in shitty looking plastic bottles......but the latters APA is fantastic.
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It's rare for me to have beer that isn't from GP
 
Death from above is the one I have most often. Aro Noir is great, my favourites would be the two seasonal mexican ones 
 
I guess I would have tried around 15 of their beers. So far the only one I didn't like was the Wasi Sabi Sour

Hooroo

Oh no! Does this mean when we catch up in Auckland we won't be at a sports bar drinking speights and Waikato?

The Silver Fern

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