Police shoot someone
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="596506" data-time="1468477634"><p>
AW will confirm this but pretty certain cops aren't allowed to accept gifts cos they're government is that right ?<br><br>
They more than just about fucken anyone deserve all they get.</p></blockquote>
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Yeah the gratuities book generally stops all that stuff. Though some of the VIP protection boys got to keep gold rolexes gifted to them by the sultan of Brunei a few years back after some robust discussion. <br><br>
Generally it's time/place/circumstance. An old lady taking some baking into the local station to thank the team for catching a burglar might be looked upon more fondly than someone buying the team a box of piss after they shot a scrote (though it shouldn't be). Accepting alcohol was apparently an absolute no-no. <br><br>
We used to get offered gifts all the time in the CIB, where you often have ongoing interactions with your victims throughout the court process. Unfortunately all had to be turned down, given its not worth a potential code of conduct hearing for a bottle of whiskey, or someone's eldest daughter's hand in marriage (both of which I was offered at one time or another) -
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<p>Yeah the gratuities book generally stops all that stuff. Though some of the VIP protection boys got to keep gold rolexes gifted to them by the sultan of Brunei a few years back after some robust discussion.<br><br>
Generally it's time/place/circumstance. An old lady taking some baking into the local station to thank the team for catching a burglar might be looked upon more fondly than someone buying the team a box of piss after they shot a scrote (though it shouldn't be). Accepting alcohol was apparently an absolute no-no.<br><br>
We used to get offered gifts all the time in the CIB, where you often have ongoing interactions with your victims throughout the court process. Unfortunately all had to be turned down, given its not worth a potential code of conduct hearing for a bottle of whiskey, or someone's eldest daughter's hand in marriage (both of which I was offered at one time or another)</p>
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<p>"Thanks for catching my daughters rapist officer, as a token of my gratitude I'd like to buy you a case of whatever you drink......"</p>
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<p>"Sorry sir, not allowed to accept gratuities like that....."</p>
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<p>That's absolute fucken bullshit in my eyes, I always got free piss from clients ( which I readily accepted ) when I worked in advertising and no way did I deserve it as much as the boys in blue. My mate and his wife run a small agency and naively brought Xmas booze for Government clients they had without knowing it was a no-no. Needless to say we all got invited round for a few drinking sessions to finish it all off.</p> -
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The cops do have some decent perks they fully deserve though.</p></blockquote>
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I built some holiday units for the psa a while back and the caretaker said that they had a tie up with the police and firefighters union do the members could stay in each other's holiday accomodation. He showed me a bunch of units on the beach front at the other end of town that were owned by the police . <br>
I don't begrudge you guys having reasonably priced places to chill out at nice spots around the country if that's what you were thinking, -
<p>I got on the piss with the cops in Tauranga a few times, and had my 21st at the bar on top of the cop shop. </p>
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<p>What perks are they? Technically we aren't even allowed to accept discounted McDonald's in case it leads to corruption.</p>
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<br><p>Also slapping around ferals with an old copy of the yellow pages till you get rsi is on my bucket list if you ever need a break pm me.<br><br>
Having access to the uniform and handcuffs is pretty cool too, no lady has ever said me in the heat of passion " it'd really turn me on if you put on your stained high viz polar fleece and built me a pergola " so there's that .</p> -
Jegga I wsan't thinking you were begrudging, I was genuinely curious what perks you were referring to. Holidays homes is a fair enough example, but it sounds like NZ police have more accommodation options than Qld. The options over here are shit. <br><br>
Re the handcuffs - not as sexy as you would think. When you see who we use the handcuffs on at work, and how often they get covered in blood, using them at home is the last thing you want to do! -
<p>I remember at our induction the Officer running it asked if anyone had any questions. One of the younger blokes asked why there was no discounted Maccas anymore.....</p>
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<p>So after an awkward silence from the humourless Inspector we all wisely kept our traps shut. You've gotta pick your audience, that kinda quip would have gone down well with certain big cheeses......not that one.</p>
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<p>I don't think Police get any perks worth mentioning. A half price sale once a year at Harvey Norman is all I can think of.</p> -
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I remember at our induction the Officer running it asked if anyone had any questions. One of the younger blokes asked why there was no discounted Maccas anymore.....<br><br>
So after an awkward silence from the humourless Inspector we all wisely kept our traps shut. You've gotta pick your audience, that kinda quip would have gone down well with certain big cheeses......not that one.<br><br>
I don't think Police get any perks worth mentioning. A half price sale once a year at Harvey Norman is all I can think of.</p></blockquote>
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Does Khatmandu include the police in their deal? I know doc workers and firefighters are in that one . -
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<p>What perks are they? Technically we aren't even allowed to accept discounted McDonald's in case it leads to corruption.</p>
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<p>When I worked at KFC any cops that came through got extra everything in thier orders, and at the end of a night shift, we'd call up the cops and say thier order was ready for pick up.</p>
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<p>I did get off a licence breach at about 11pm one night on my way home, wasnt sure if it was my natural charm or the fact I still had my KFC uniform on....probably neither, but not being a knob to cops is always a good starting point I found.</p> -
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<p>When I worked at KFC any cops that came through got extra everything in thier orders, and at the end of a night shift, we'd call up the cops and say thier order was ready for pick up.</p>
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<p>I did get off a licence breach at about 11pm one night on my way home, wasnt sure if it was my natural charm or the fact <strong>I still had my KFC uniform on</strong>....probably neither, but not being a knob to cops is always a good starting point I found.</p>
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<p>I bet you used to fight the bitches off on your way home back in the day.....</p> -
<p>I was driving you plonker! </p>
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<p>But othertimes, yeah mate, was like shooting fish in a barrel, but nothing like this tinder business</p> -
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<p>Jegga I wsan't thinking you were begrudging, I was genuinely curious what perks you were referring to. Holidays homes is a fair enough example, but it sounds like NZ police have more accommodation options than Qld. The options over here are shit.<br><br>
Re the handcuffs - not as sexy as you would think. When you see who we use the handcuffs on at work, and how often they get covered in blood, using them at home is the last thing you want to do!</p>
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<p>My cuffs had had basically every type of bodily fluid on them, and not in a fun way either. I associate handcuffs with the smell of the drunken unwashed, because that's normally who they went on. My wife is in the job too, so thankfully the handcuffs things aren't a fascination for her either or it would be quite incompatible.</p>
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<p>I used to always laugh at the young cops who would more or less open their small talk with a girl in a bar by asking them what they did for work, so that they could tell the girl they were a cop. For some of them, it was about their only trump card. </p>
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<p>We didn't do too badly in terms of discounts/perks. For starters, a frontline cop starts on a far better wage than most people who graduate uni, and all they have to do is a 19 week course. No student loan, no apprenticeship fees. You had a lot of cashed up young guys who had come straight out of school. Plus cops tend to accrue incredible amounts of leave. The obvious flipside of this is that after about 5 years, most who went to uni had screamed past the boys in blue in terms of pay rises and bonuses. That said, a large proportion of my mates hated their job and despised the 40+ hours they spent at work. I generally always enjoyed going to work. </p>
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<p>The Police Association work pretty hard on getting membership discounts. They have over 10,000 members so their bulk buying powers were pretty good. The association homes, dotted all around the country cost $60 per night, and slept about 10 people (20, if you had mongrel mates who didn't mind sleeping on the floor). They also had really good discounts at rental car companies, hirequip, quite a few clothing places, Hell Pizza (one of my mates ordered a pizza using the discount, and inside the box was scrawled in marker pen "We love cops, give us a yell if you're single" with a phone number included). Plus we got dirt cheap entry to movies and other places. </p>
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<p>We were in the same boat as Crazy Horse and got told a few years back we got told we weren't allowed to accept half price McDonalds, Burger King, Kebabs, Subway, Wild Bean Coffees etc because it would lead to "corruption". To be fair, some (a minority of) guys used to really take the piss and actually ask for the discount if it wasn't offered, which kinda ruined it for everyone and opened us up to criticism. In general there were heaps of places who offer stuff if you were on duty buying lunch. </p> -
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<p>My cuffs had had basically every type of bodily fluid on them, and not in a fun way either. I associate handcuffs with the smell of the drunken unwashed, because that's normally who they went on. My wife is in the job too, so thankfully the handcuffs things aren't a fascination for her either or it would be quite incompatible.</p>
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<p>I used to always laugh at the young cops who would more or less open their small talk with a girl in a bar by asking them what they did for work, so that they could tell the girl they were a cop. For some of them, it was about their only trump card. </p>
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<p>We didn't do too badly in terms of discounts/perks.<strong> For starters, a frontline cop starts on a far better wage than most people who graduate uni, and all they have to do is a 19 week course.</strong> No student loan, no apprenticeship fees. You had a lot of cashed up young guys who had come straight out of school. Plus cops tend to accrue incredible amounts of leave. The obvious flipside of this is that after about 5 years, most who went to uni had screamed past the boys in blue in terms of pay rises and bonuses. That said, a large proportion of my mates hated their job and despised the 40+ hours they spent at work. I generally always enjoyed going to work. </p>
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<p>The Police Association work pretty hard on getting membership discounts. They have over 10,000 members so their bulk buying powers were pretty good. The association homes, dotted all around the country cost $60 per night, and slept about 10 people (20, if you had mongrel mates who didn't mind sleeping on the floor). They also had really good discounts at rental car companies, hirequip, quite a few clothing places, Hell Pizza (one of my mates ordered a pizza using the discount, and inside the box was scrawled in marker pen "We love cops, give us a yell if you're single" with a phone number included). Plus we got dirt cheap entry to movies and other places. </p>
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<p>We were in the same boat as Crazy Horse and got told a few years back we got told we weren't allowed to accept half price McDonalds, Burger King, Kebabs, Subway, Wild Bean Coffees etc because it would lead to "corruption". To be fair, some (a minority of) guys used to really take the piss and actually ask for the discount if it wasn't offered, which kinda ruined it for everyone and opened us up to criticism. In general there were heaps of places who offer stuff if you were on duty buying lunch. </p>
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<p>Yeah a lot of my younger Comms colleagues couldn't believe the starting wages, fucken good coin for someone in their early 20s, less so for a 36 year old as I was at the time haha.</p>
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<p>Yeah a lot of my younger Comms colleagues couldn't believe the starting wages, fucken good coin for someone in their early 20s, less so for a 36 year old as I was at the time haha.</p>
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<p>AW, Inspectors would be on six figures wouldn't they ?</p>
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<p>Yeah I think they start at about 110k, but when you think of how long you have to be in to get there, and how many staff they normally have under them, it doesn't really compare to the private sector. Plus all the fun stuff in the job is done at Sergeant level and below...</p>
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<p>That's the problem the Police will always face in recruiting older candidates is that there is only so far that the love of the job, and fulfilling long term dream will take you. I know of guys who basically halved their pay packets to join in their mid 30's but they normally are the exception rather than the norm and can afford to because of partners who earn high salaries or minimal mortgage etc.</p> -
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<p>Yeah I think they start at about 110k, but when you think of how long you have to be in to get there, and how many staff they normally have under them, it doesn't really compare to the private sector. Plus all the fun stuff in the job is done at Sergeant level and below...</p>
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<p>That's the problem the Police will always face in recruiting older candidates is that there is only so far that the love of the job, and fulfilling long term dream will take you.<strong> I know of guys who basically halved their pay packets to join in their mid 30's</strong> but they normally are the exception rather than the norm and can afford to because of partners who earn high salaries or minimal mortgage etc.</p>
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<p>That's more or less what I did in Comms, ex and I did it pretty tough financially for a bit when that happened.....</p>
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<p>I worked with one bloke who I was told went straight from probabtionary Constable to Inspector cos of a law background ? bear in mind this convo occurred at about 6.15am at the start of a shift so I may have that slightly wrong. I kept telling myself that could have been me if I had joined in my early 20s.</p> -
There was a story on tv last night about the guy shot in Hamilton , his mrs was not credible, they also downplayed his involvement in p. They also bought up the shoot to wound rather than kill bullshit a little bit too. I find it hard to believe that the police rock up with guns to a law abiding citizens house and shoot him in cold blood, did I mention he had a loaded sawn off shotgun in his hands when they shot him?