Queensland Shooting
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@Crazy-Horse said in Queensland Shooting:
Yesterday, and so far today, we have a steady stream of people coming into the station bearing flowers, chocolates and hugs. Many are crying. I have never seen a response from the public like this.
ive always felt whilst there may be individual cops out there who are less than perfect....the majority cops are doing a job the vast majority of us dont want to do and probably doing a good job, that combined with the fact this seems to be a particularly egregious crime means most people really feel for you and your colleagues
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It's been good seeing the reaction from the public, we do forget sometimes that people do appreciate what we do.
Today has probably been a bit sadder because we are starting to hear details that haven't been released. They are chilling.
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@MN5 said in Queensland Shooting:
We whinge about long drives in NZ ( justifiably in some cases, our roads are pretty shit ) but we ain’t got shit on Australia.
The condition of the roads here is a joke.
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@bayimports said in Queensland Shooting:
F**K 110km lol, Is it just parts of NT, or does Qld also have some roads with no speed limit?
NT used to have no speed limit on the highway. Think they've now adopted 130.
As Mariner says the motorway from Gympie through the Sunny Coast is 110.
IIRC there's a section south(?) of Macaky that's also 110. And that's only 2-lane.
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@bayimports said in Queensland Shooting:
out that way it actually makes me wonder if this was more of a documentary than a horror movie
Well based, and not too loosely, on a number of true stories. And not just Milat.
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@mariner4life said in Queensland Shooting:
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@Chris said in Queensland Shooting:
Not a place I like stopping at, straight through for me.
You've just described most of Oz
Yeah, true unfortunately - we drove Darwin to Broome, and there were a shit-ton of places that you really didn't want to stop at. I think the issue is the proper isolation - in NZ you're never really that far from anywhere, but some of these places you are just cut off from the world in many ways.
The sheer size of Australia when you look at it on a map is eye opening.
When you consider the country has a population of 25 mill and ( off the top of my head ) about 10 of those live in Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Brisbane that’s A LOT of space for ferals to manufacture drugs and become lunatics in the extreme heat and isolation.
It’s a wonder this doesn’t happen so much more often, thankfully it doesn’t.
if you take the 5 major capitals that's more like 16 million.
i've driven to Brisbane far too often. On the 2,000km journey there is an enormous amount of nothing, with a regional city of 150k or so people every 400km
I go up through Dalby,Roma then branch up North to Charters Towers and back down the Coast for some coaching clinics .
And the back way up to Charters Towers is just nothing but bush with old houses sprinkled now and again.
Big Red Roos jumping in front of you to Wilderbeasts standing on the shitty roads through there. -
@Chris that inland way is actually more interesting than the "coastal" route.
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@mariner4life said in Queensland Shooting:
@Chris that inland way is actually more interesting than the "coastal" route.
As bumpy as fuck though.
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@mariner4life said in Queensland Shooting:
@Chris that inland way is actually more interesting than the "coastal" route.
Long areas of nothing though and terrible roads.
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@Chris said in Queensland Shooting:
@mariner4life said in Queensland Shooting:
@Chris that inland way is actually more interesting than the "coastal" route.
Long areas of nothing though and terrible roads.
the Bruce Highway? yeah totally
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@mariner4life said in Queensland Shooting:
@Chris said in Queensland Shooting:
@mariner4life said in Queensland Shooting:
@Chris that inland way is actually more interesting than the "coastal" route.
Long areas of nothing though and terrible roads.
the Bruce Highway? yeah totally
Haha death Road , was talking about the back way.
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@mariner4life said in Queensland Shooting:
@MN5 said in Queensland Shooting:
@voodoo said in Queensland Shooting:
@dogmeat said in Queensland Shooting:
@Chris said in Queensland Shooting:
Not a place I like stopping at, straight through for me.
You've just described most of Oz
Yeah, true unfortunately - we drove Darwin to Broome, and there were a shit-ton of places that you really didn't want to stop at. I think the issue is the proper isolation - in NZ you're never really that far from anywhere, but some of these places you are just cut off from the world in many ways.
The sheer size of Australia when you look at it on a map is eye opening.
When you consider the country has a population of 25 mill and ( off the top of my head ) about 10 of those live in Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Brisbane that’s A LOT of space for ferals to manufacture drugs and become lunatics in the extreme heat and isolation.
It’s a wonder this doesn’t happen so much more often, thankfully it doesn’t.
if you take the 5 major capitals that's more like 16 million.
i've driven to Brisbane far too often. On the 2,000km journey there is an enormous amount of nothing, with a regional city of 150k or so people every 400km
One of the greatest challenges for Australia is not just the concentrated population centres but the fact that those cities are on the coastline actually creates a massive divide in so many ways between city and rural and regional inland people.
There have been attempts to try and boost regional centres as a means of enabling rural Australia to access services etc without having to go to capital cities, but that has been difficult to say the least.
So the isolation is real.
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Back on topic, and more info / salacious gossip.
- Reports that headmaster dude had previously been married to sister in law.
- Been on ice during the lead in (not surprisinly)
- Dad is a deeply religious retired Pastor (Funny. I get that. I reckon boys who are brought up in a very religious environment are more susceptible to conspiracy theories because they're open to belief. My theory (which I probably read somewhere) and I'm sticking to it.)
- Dad hadn't seen boy for 23 years.
I did find this amusing though ...
The Daily Mail reported a close family member had told one local that the home had been moved completely off grid, with the brothers installing solar panels, satellite dishes and rainwater and septic tanks.
Wondering if the closest this reporter has been to the country is Eagle Farm ...
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Goodness knows how you'd make sense of the whole thing as the father: Father of two brothers behind ambush that killed Australian police officers speaks out
Father of two brothers behind ambush that killed Australian police officers speaks out
The father of Gareth and Nathaniel Train has spoken out about his sons and their relationship in an exclusive interview with A Current Affair aired on Wednesday night.
Constable Matthew Arnold, 26, Constable Rachel McCrow, 29 and 58-year-old local man Alan Dare were shot dead at a Wieambilla property on Monday afternoon.
After a six-hour siege, Gareth Train, 47, his wife Stacey Train 45 and former Walgett school principal Nathaniel Train, 46, were killed by police.
Ron Train said he first suspected his sons might have been involved after watching the news on Monday night, but had no idea what happened until there was a knock on the door the next morning.
“I just could not understand how something like this could have occurred with two children who had been raised by my late wife Gwen and myself with certain beliefs, Christian beliefs,” he said.
The boys went down a “dark track” and believes it started when Nathaniel experienced a breakdown, Train said in the exclusive interview.
The pastor described Gareth as a “very volatile, very controlling” man who was obsessed with weapons.
“Gareth in particular, was obsessed with guns and weapons. Nathaniel to a lesser degree, but he used to go shooting with Gareth,” Train said.
He told the show the boys would go shooting for kangaroos, rabbits and other animals.
The father also revealed he hadn’t spoken to the two boys in 23 years, but had no idea why the pair decided to cut off all contact.
“I really don’t know the reason. Seriously I don’t. It wasn’t because I was, I know it’s very hard [for] what they call PK Kids, preachers’ kids,” he said.
But he also explained the complicated family dynamic, with Nathaniel originally married to Stacey, but she later married Gareth.
He had no idea how it happened.
“I just think in the end that he [Gareth] took over that relationship that Nathaniel and Stacey had because Gareth and Nathaniel are fairly close ... I’m only speculating that somehow he moved into a relationship with Stacey and Nathaniel moved out, and they were divorced,” Train said.
Nathaniel Train pictured with Stacey Train, who later married his brother Gareth.
The entire situation was “beyond understanding” and added he grieved for the families of the police officers and bystander who were killed in the shooting.
“It’s horrific, there’s no excuse for that. I don’t excuse my boys for their behaviour, their actions at all.”
He never considered the pair monsters, but said he never stopped loving the men despite their estrangement.
“I don’t consider them monsters, but I am not proud of them,” Train said.
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@Windows97 said in Queensland Shooting:
I think about the only conclusion you can draw is that smoking meth makes you bat shit crazy.
I think there's probably causation in both directions.
