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    Revealed: NZ's rugby sevens event to be scrapped after 23 years

    Revealed: NZ's rugby sevens event to be scrapped after 23 years

    The final whistle is about to be blown on the New Zealand leg of the Sevens World Series.

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    @Tim is that a guesswork article based on the restructure or a factual statement?
    (paywalled so I can only see the headline)

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    But New Zealand will not be among them, with NZ Rugby confirming to the Herald that its time hosting the event will end after this season.

    NZR general manager of professional rugby and performance Chris Lendrum said last week’s announcement from World Rugby was no surprise, with the wheels in motion on a rebrand for more than a year.

    “The announcement itself is no surprise. What’s disappointing is the impact for New Zealand and we won’t be hosting a World Series event past this January,” Lendrum said.

    “We expressed interest as an existing host of a tournament in the series in Hamilton and wished to carry on hosting, if we could find a way to do that. We had several discussions with World Rugby around it, but we have been told we won’t be successful.”

    Paywalls are easy to circumvent. Your local library's website also provides full access to daily editions of the NZ Herald.

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    There is nothing to stop the NZRFU in staging their own tournament as there must be a gap in the IRB Schedule just waiting to be filled in. Wouldn't a double header joint venture ie one week in NZ and one in Fiji be fabulous?

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    @Tim said in 2023 World Sevens Series:

    But New Zealand will not be among them, with NZ Rugby confirming to the Herald that its time hosting the event will end after this season.

    NZR general manager of professional rugby and performance Chris Lendrum said last week’s announcement from World Rugby was no surprise, with the wheels in motion on a rebrand for more than a year.

    “The announcement itself is no surprise. What’s disappointing is the impact for New Zealand and we won’t be hosting a World Series event past this January,” Lendrum said.

    “We expressed interest as an existing host of a tournament in the series in Hamilton and wished to carry on hosting, if we could find a way to do that. We had several discussions with World Rugby around it, but we have been told we won’t be successful.”

    Paywalls are easy to circumvent. Your local library's website also provides full access to daily editions of the NZ Herald.

    All sounds way too hard. Why would I do that when there is here?

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    I wonder how a regional sevens series or one off comp would go for the level below national. Where do the sevens source their players from? Amateur and semi pro players they see at club sevens and then at provincial level tournaments. You could have 5 or 6 teams based on Super rugby regions to provide a level of Sevens above provincial. Add in some Fiji and Samoa teams. Have some quality onsite entertainment to keep the party theme as well as family friendly stuff.

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    @mikedogz Are you talking about the regional sevens and the national sevens tournament that we had for years, pre-covid? Provincial teams, with players from NPC without SR contracts and some club players? I'd love them to bring that back, but it hardly compensates for the loss of a leg of the World Series.

    There's also the Oceania 7s in which NZ has participated a few times with the NZ men's and women's development teams. That's a one-off tournament.

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    They should be bringing all that back , my idea is a next tier above provincial but below national. A non world series tournament could be an option if the NZR and the current or future promotors were keen.

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    @mikedogz said in 2023 World Sevens Series:

    They should be bringing all that back , my idea is a next tier above provincial but below national. A non world series tournament could be an option if the NZR and the current or future promotors were keen.

    I like it but the issue may be whether the franchises would agree. Would they want the burden of running a separate 'code' alongside their XVs? They certainly wouldn't want to lose XVs players across to Sevens.

    How about an elevated Nationals round. Qualifying tournament with top 6 entry to the 'Festival'. Add in some PI representation as suggested.
    It should be more about the festival than the rugby. Make it a family event.
    Would also provide a sorting ground for up and coming youngsters to shine and fill the gap after schools tournaments. Would also deepen the coaching resources.

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    We got a bit closer to the top 4 in Dubai, but need to do better in Cape Town.

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    @Crucial said in 2023 World Sevens Series:

    @mikedogz said in 2023 World Sevens Series:

    They should be bringing all that back , my idea is a next tier above provincial but below national. A non world series tournament could be an option if the NZR and the current or future promotors were keen.

    I like it but the issue may be whether the franchises would agree. Would they want the burden of running a separate 'code' alongside their XVs? They certainly wouldn't want to lose XVs players across to Sevens.

    How about an elevated Nationals round. Qualifying tournament with top 6 entry to the 'Festival'. Add in some PI representation as suggested.
    It should be more about the festival than the rugby. Make it a family event.
    Would also provide a sorting ground for up and coming youngsters to shine and fill the gap after schools tournaments. Would also deepen the coaching resource

    It would be different players to the ones that are in the 15's system. Under the franchise name but with sevens specific coaches/staff. We need to build depth in our sevens in both genders so I think there needs to be away to get more pro sevens players running around. Players could earn short term contracts over the sevens season..

    It would probably be easier to select more development teams to play in Sevens tournaments around the world and in Fiji in particular.

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    @mikedogz said in 2023 World Sevens Series:

    @Crucial said in 2023 World Sevens Series:

    @mikedogz said in 2023 World Sevens Series:

    They should be bringing all that back , my idea is a next tier above provincial but below national. A non world series tournament could be an option if the NZR and the current or future promotors were keen.

    I like it but the issue may be whether the franchises would agree. Would they want the burden of running a separate 'code' alongside their XVs? They certainly wouldn't want to lose XVs players across to Sevens.

    How about an elevated Nationals round. Qualifying tournament with top 6 entry to the 'Festival'. Add in some PI representation as suggested.
    It should be more about the festival than the rugby. Make it a family event.
    Would also provide a sorting ground for up and coming youngsters to shine and fill the gap after schools tournaments. Would also deepen the coaching resource

    It would be different players to the ones that are in the 15's system. Under the franchise name but with sevens specific coaches/staff. We need to build depth in our sevens in both genders so I think there needs to be away to get more pro sevens players running around. Players could earn short term contracts over the sevens season..

    It would probably be easier to select more development teams to play in Sevens tournaments around the world and in Fiji in particular.

    But you see how that would place costs on the franchises that they may not be interested in. I would be happy with it being at provincial level for a pre-tournament then Maybe select a regional team using the franchise name I guess.
    The other way would be for provinces to run proper sevens comps and select teams which then compete to play.
    In the womens game especially there is a big crossover between the XVs and Sevens. Some players would be forced to make choices that may damage chances one way or the other.

    However it is strctured, it would be good to replace the world series with a domestic comp tournament and revive what seems to have drifted off the calendar.

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    @Stargazer I remember the commentators telling a story that when she started she had never kicked a rugby ball in her life. The team had no kicker so she went and practiced and learned.

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    I assume that the National Sevens tournament is still happening? That was always great for talent identification.

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    @Bovidae said in 2023 World Sevens Series:

    I assume that the National Sevens tournament is still happening? That was always great for talent identification.

    That's our point. We haven't seen one since Covid and it appears to have dropped off the calendar completely. Provincial website have no mention of any schedule planning toward a selection either.

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    @Crucial said in 2023 World Sevens Series:

    @Bovidae said in 2023 World Sevens Series:

    I assume that the National Sevens tournament is still happening? That was always great for talent identification.

    That's our point. We haven't seen one since Covid and it appears to have dropped off the calendar completely. Provincial website have no mention of any schedule planning toward a selection either.

    I should have been clearer. I meant is it returning after covid. You are indicating no.

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    @Bovidae said in 2023 World Sevens Series:

    @Crucial said in 2023 World Sevens Series:

    @Bovidae said in 2023 World Sevens Series:

    I assume that the National Sevens tournament is still happening? That was always great for talent identification.

    That's our point. We haven't seen one since Covid and it appears to have dropped off the calendar completely. Provincial website have no mention of any schedule planning toward a selection either.

    I should have been clearer. I meant is it returning after covid. You are indicating no.

    I don't know. There is no indication that it is or isn't. There was plenty of opportunity for one this year.

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    Teams for Cape Town, this weekend:

    All Blacks Sevens team:

    2 Brady Rush

    3 Tone Ng Shiu

    4 Akuila Rokolisoa

    7 Sam Dickson (C)

    9 Amanaki Nicole

    11 Joe Webber

    13 Moses Leo

    21 Che Clark

    23 Lewis Ormond

    24 Tepaea Cook-Savage* (Debut)

    44 Roderick Solo

    49 Caleb Tangitau

    64 Regan Ware

    Unavailable for selection: Leroy Carter, Kitiona Vai, Andrew Knewstubb, Tim Mikkelson, Sione Molia (injury), Dylan Collier, Ngarohi McGarvey-Black (parental leave), Kurt Baker (retired).


    Black Ferns Sevens team:

    4 Niall Williams

    6 Michaela Blyde

    7 Tyla Nathan-Wong (C)

    8 Kelly Brazier

    13 Jazmin Felix-Hotham (VC)

    14 Terina Te Tamaki

    18 Kelsey Teneti

    22 Shiray Kaka

    26 Tysha Ikenasio

    33 Manaia Nuku

    77 Risaleaana Pouri-Lane (VC)

    83 Jorja Miller

    99 Tenika Willison

    Unavailable for selection: Sarah Hirini, Portia Woodman, Stacey Fluhler, Ruby Tui, Theresa Fitzpatrick (Black Ferns), Alena Saili, Mahina Paul (injury).


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    https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-sevens-and-black-ferns-sevens-teams-named-for-cape-town/

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