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  • UniteU Offline
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    Lions must be pretty firm for top spot now (with Crusaders falling over in Suva).

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  • G Offline
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    <p>ok so the conference system looks a bit flawed with 3 of the 4 nz teams having to play all games away in the playoffs yet the justification for this geographic based system is that it is supposed to reduce teams' travel burden?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>BS. take the Highlanders for example: they have to fly to South Africa this week, then next week fly across the globe to Argentina, then the following week fly back to NZ for their final regular game. Then the week after that they get to fly back to South Africa for a QF then fly back to Australasia where they would still have to win an away SF and away final to retain the title. pretty tall order methinks.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>i miss the simple round robin super 14. time to change this to a 2 tier comp that everyone understands with promotion-relegation. there is going to be mega travel anyway so get rid of these lopsided games and playing some teams twice and others not at all, and stopping the whole comp for a month. this needs fixing.</p>

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    #9

    <p>Lions are now on 47 pts so should finish at the top. The Jags in BA could be a potential banana skin game but I doubt it.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The NZ conference is really tight:</p>
    <p>Chiefs            46</p>
    <p>Crusaders      45</p>
    <p>Hurricanes     44</p>
    <p>Highlanders   43</p>

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #10

    <p>the Jaguares are up 15-6 over the Bulls at the break in pissing rain, maybe the Jaguares might be better off after the break from the time in camp with the Pumas?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I have them 12 and under to finish my multi</p>

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    #11

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="593676" data-time="1467498699">
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    <p>the Jaguares are up 15-6 over the Bulls at the break in pissing rain, maybe the Jaguares might be better off after the break from the time in camp with the Pumas?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I have them 12 and under to finish my multi</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>... and win 29-11 sorry TR</p>

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #12

    <p>yeah I know I saw....:( </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>woulda got even better odds had I gone 13+, Bulls were pretty clueless, Creevy was superb</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="593671" data-time="1467497601">
    <div>
    <p>Lions are now on 47 pts so should finish at the top. The Jags in BA could be a potential banana skin game but I doubt it.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The NZ conference is really tight:</p>
    <p>Chiefs            46</p>
    <p>Crusaders      45</p>
    <p>Hurricanes     44</p>
    <p>Highlanders   43</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>It still means that the Lions will have to travel back to South Africa for their playoff game from Argentina.</p>

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  • boobooB Offline
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    Possibly been discussed and also not sure where to put this so this thread as good as any. <br><br>
    I was looking into this "thing" that Auckland are the closest home game for the Jagulars. Couldn't see it as surely Africa is closer. Well yes it is. 6,500km to Cape Town as the crow flies as opposed to 10,000 to Auckland.<br><br>
    But the planes don't fly as the crow flies. They fly via Sao Paulo which means flights are 17 hours against 13 to Auckland.<br><br>
    It's probably been discussed (I recall some drama for the Chiefs getting to BA from SA) but it's the first time I've bothered to work it out.

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="593736" data-time="1467518169">
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    <p>But the planes don't fly as the crow flies. They fly via Sao Paulo which means flights are 17 hours against 13 to Auckland.<br>
     </p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>But less jetlag</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Argentina GMT -3</p>
    <p>NZ GMT +12</p>
    <p>SA GMT +2</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>So only 5 hours difference SA Arg, but 9 hours NZ ARG.  That's why the trip is easier - it ain't just the travel</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Edit; and also why the ABs don't lose as much - TRC is now set up so SA ARG is the only back to back weekend.  When we lost to Deans, we played in consecutive weekends Hamiltron, Joburg and then Melbourne.  Surprise, we lost the last game.</p>

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    <p>If the play-offs started next weekend and the current table determined who plays who:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Lions v Sharks</p>
    <p>Chiefs v Highlanders</p>
    <p>Stormers v Hurricanes</p>
    <p>Brumbies v Crusaders</p>

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    #17

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="593748" data-time="1467526219">
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    <p>If the play-offs started next weekend and the current table determined who plays who:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Lions v Sharks</p>
    <p>Chiefs v Highlanders</p>
    <p>Stormers v Hurricanes</p>
    <p>Brumbies v Crusaders</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>A single home game for NZ teams? Absolutely ridiculous :mocking:</p>

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    #18

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="593716" data-time="1467510532">
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    <p>It still means that the Lions will have to travel back to South Africa for their playoff game from Argentina.</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Maybe offset by the team they would play also having to travel to Jo'burg if it isn't the Sharks.</p>

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  • P Offline
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    #19

    Lions held serve this morning and went back top. Chiefs are locked into the playoffs along with the lions. Chiefs can finish 1, 2, 5, 6 or 7. Canes probably the biggest risk of losing amongst nz teams tonight and tomorrow but I'm not holding my breath.

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  • P Offline
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    #20

    Of course saders locked in too when ponies lost last night. Celebrated by annihilating it in that training run against the rebels.

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  • P Offline
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    #21

    And canes firming up now.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #22

    <p>So a Highlanders win over the Jags will guarantee 4 NZ sides in the playoffs.</p>

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    #23

    Stormers have guaranteed top spot of Africa 1 with the win tonight.

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  • P Offline
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    #24

    Stormers locked into the 3 seed now. So if you fancy yourself in Capetown, and most teams would given the stormers' playoff record, then finishing 6th might be okay after all. Shit of a flight though.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #25

    <p>guess that Tahs are no longer looking forward to heading to Auckland which is a must win with BP if they want to have a shot at topping the Aussie standings esp with the Brumbies at home to the force...</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>While the Blues wil be last in the NZ conference, they could finish higher than the top Aussie team (if the Force upset the Brumbies) if they beat the Tahs, and higher than everyone in the other conference bar the Lions & Stormers.....so, 7th on a combined table, although more likely going to be 9th/10th if they can pick up a win.</p>

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    <br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="595605" data-time="1468101719"><p>(if the Force upset the Brumbies)</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    And that's all they wrote. Tahs are finished.

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