Coronavirus - Overall
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What's this about the Pfizer CEO saying they had no data to suggest that the vaccine would prevent transmission? Wasn't that the entire basis for the vaccine passports and firing staff that didn't get vaccinated? If that is true shouldn't a bunch of politicians, including our own dear leader, be facing some consequences?
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@No-Quarter I haven't read that but I also don't remember anyone saying the vaccine in and of itself prevents transmission.
It protected an individual and made that individual less likely to contract the virus. If you haven't got the virus you can't pass it on. Therefore getting vaccinated ultimately helps limit the spread of the virus.
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@dogmeat I swear I had 10 arguments all about transmission on this website.
Trust the science boys....
I referenced studies showing no transmission differences in vaxed vs unvaxed on population level.
Also that it was more dangerous for young people under 25 to get the vax than actual covid. All since has been studied and looks to be correct.
Fuck anyone who peer pressured people to get it based on saving grandma and grandpa
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Chickens coming home to roost
It’s going to be a fucking shambles
Or at least it should be
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Chickens coming home to roost
It’s going to be a fucking shambles
Or at least it should be
it won't
because not enough people will give a shit any more.
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@muddyriver said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@dogmeat I swear I had 10 arguments all about transmission on this website.
Trust the science boys....
I referenced studies showing no transmission differences in vaxed vs unvaxed on population level.
Also that it was more dangerous for young people under 25 to get the vax than actual covid. All since has been studied and looks to be correct.
Fuck anyone who peer pressured people to get it based on saving grandma and grandpa
I also repeatedly asked this question and was told (with great assurance) that YES the virus will reduce the rate of transmission.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Chickens coming home to roost
It’s going to be a fucking shambles
Or at least it should be
it won't
because not enough people will give a shit any more.
And politicians never ever get held to account
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@muddyriver said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Fuck anyone who peer pressured people to get it based on saving grandma and grandpa
It wasn't so much that, but the threat of redundancy/ job loss pressure, not being able to have your business open pressure, not being able to go anywhere pressure, not being able to visit friends/parents/people in hospital/rest homes pressure, your kids not being able to play sport pressure. The list goes on...
All these in this country were mandated.
And everyone seems to have forgotten.
I'm pretty convinced the mandates destroyed more lives than what the virus ever did - though getting impartial and unbiased data on that probably wont happen for another 10 years or so until "certain" people have left public office.
It's unbelievable.
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I got my 3 shots because I wanted to keep my job and go somewhere other than just the supermarket and gas station...
I'm all for vaccination, my kids have been vaccinated for everything but when there's more risk of my kids dying from having an adverse reaction to the vaccine than what they would of covid it's a fairly easy line to draw. Yet people were pushing for that to be mandated also...
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I got asked a couple of days ago if I’m going to get my four year old jabbed. I was like, for what?
Its strange how Covid is hanging on here (and in other places) in some people’s minds.
I got three shots simply because I needed them to travel.
Where is here? In NZ covid19 talk has all but dried up. As for the 4th shot, I am not interested in another dose of the original recipe with probable declining efficacy against new strains
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It appears to me the only people making any noise at all about Covid are those that were anti mandates and lockdowns from the get go. Looking for some sort of justification.
I'm sure that there is also a tiny rump of henny penny's who still think that we are living on the brink of a medical Armageddon, but most are simply meh.
Personally I wouldn't be vaccinating under 12's as there is no real benefit, but I thought the stories of high numbers of kids dying from the vaccine had been discredited?
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
It appears to me the only people making any noise at all about Covid are those that were anti mandates and lockdowns from the get go. Looking for some sort of justification.
I'm sure that there is also a tiny rump of henny penny's who still think that we are living on the brink of a medical Armageddon, but most are simply meh.
Personally I wouldn't be vaccinating under 12's as there is no real benefit, but I thought the stories of high numbers of kids dying from the vaccine had been discredited?
Of course people who were dismayed at the draconian lockdowns and vaccine mandates are pissed off that it turns out there was, at best, a very very weak justification for them. They shut down the entire fucking world for this, the mental health, education and economic effects of what they did will be felt for decades. And of course it's poor people who are being fucked the hardest by all of this. TBH I'm actually shocked that people would just say 'meh' to all of that.
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@No-Quarter They are saying meh to the whole virus thing. This was in response to the comment by @gt12 that Covid is still hanging on in some people's minds.
As for the rest of your post - it sort of proves my point.
I'm definitely over all the shouty hyperbole.
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@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
It appears to me the only people making any noise at all about Covid are those that were anti mandates and lockdowns from the get go. Looking for some sort of justification.
I'm sure that there is also a tiny rump of henny penny's who still think that we are living on the brink of a medical Armageddon, but most are simply meh.
Personally I wouldn't be vaccinating under 12's as there is no real benefit, but I thought the stories of high numbers of kids dying from the vaccine had been discredited?
Of course people who were dismayed at the draconian lockdowns and vaccine mandates are pissed off that it turns out there was, at best, a very very weak justification for them. They shut down the entire fucking world for this, the mental health, education and economic effects of what they did will be felt for decades. And of course it's poor people who are being fucked the hardest by all of this. TBH I'm actually shocked that people would just say 'meh' to all of that.
IMHO the actions of our government in the first 6 to 9 months were reasonable given the circumstances.
Criticism of that period feels like 20/20 wisdom in hindsight to me. From there they have sat on their hands and failed to assess what was going on in the NH and Australia, and consequently failed to act. They are still doing it, as evidenced by the belated winding up of the traffic light system and their foot dragging on immigration in response to the severe labour shortage -
@Windows97 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@muddyriver said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Fuck anyone who peer pressured people to get it based on saving grandma and grandpa
It wasn't so much that, but the threat of redundancy/ job loss pressure, not being able to have your business open pressure, not being able to go anywhere pressure, not being able to visit friends/parents/people in hospital/rest homes pressure, your kids not being able to play sport pressure. The list goes on...
All these in this country were mandated.
And everyone seems to have forgotten.
I'm pretty convinced the mandates destroyed more lives than what the virus ever did - though getting impartial and unbiased data on that probably wont happen for another 10 years or so until "certain" people have left public office.
It's unbelievable.
It’s fucking criminal
And stupid fluffybunnies here in Wales continue to vote in these evil cretins
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mariner4life no no no, round 4, or is it 6
Two questions
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Who the fuck is still getting tested?
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Who fucking cares?
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