AFL 2022
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well fuck...dragged Mrs Womble to a sports bar on magnetic island to watch on sat...they closed their kitchen at 2pm even though it was packed...so couldn't even get a feed and had to watch that shit
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@Kiwiwomble said in AFL 2022:
well fuck...dragged Mrs Womble to a sports bar on magnetic island to watch on sat...they closed their kitchen at 2pm even though it was packed...so couldn't even get a feed and had to watch that shit
yeah. ouch. As a neutral it was boring. As a swannies supporter it must have sucked
See the average winning margin of the past four grand finals is almost 12 goals.
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@mariner4life was texting my "AFL mate", at half time to check what the record loss was for a grand final...well short luckily but i think Geelong started celebrating early and took their foot off our throat a little
crowd looked amazing, im sure lots came down from sydney but also know a lot from south melbourne/ port melbourne etc woke up, probably not 50/50 crowd but didn't look far off it
was just sad how invisible...pretty much our whole team...was, completely outplayed in every aspect
Was saying we looked spent in the final quarter last week against the pies...and looked just as spent from the first bounce
The only team i support that has a better than average chance of winning something is the AB's and not only has that become less certain over the last couple of years...my enjoyment when we do win is diminishing....sport really can get ya down sometimes
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im sure Geelong supporters enjoyed it ,
I was at the Richmond GWS GF 2019 where we won by 90 odd points ,
it was pretty much all over early second quarter and I had people telling me later it was a boring game , and I totally get that for the neutrals ,
But as a supporter at the ground all the tension gets removed , the celebrations start early, its party time
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@Kiwiwomble yeah the Swans played their GF last weekend. They played brilliant footy in that first half and completely dominated the Pies. They did expend a bit of energy doing it and then just trying to hold on to just scrape home.
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If you watched the game on Saturday, then its comes as no surprise that Joel Selwood is retiring.
Great leader, great career, several records that will be tough to beat. Geelong club legend that will go down in folklore at the Cattery.
Fairytale finish to play that game, and win a flag. Not many get that opportunity.
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The Jordan De Goey saga continues. He’s a very good big body mid and Saints could do with one or two of those. But he seems a bit of an egg.
AFL do it better than any other sport in OZ and know how to stay in the news even after their big dance.
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@ACT-Crusader said in AFL 2022:
The Jordan De Goey saga continues. He’s a very good big body mid and Saints could do with one or two of those. But he seems a bit of an egg.
AFL do it better than any other sport in OZ and know how to stay in the news even after their big dance.
I think that has a lot to do with the appetite to be in the news. There's no down side for having bad press for the sport, in the southern states especially. There's no competition. Fans will still love the sport, just develop more hate for the other club that is seen as the villain in this particular story.
So where say rugby may down play a transfer story, AFL will play it up.
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looooooool at Essington
They hire a new CEO. it automatically looks a shit hire given why he was rissoled from his last job (okay yes he "resigned" but come on)
Then it turns out he's a member of one of those pretty crazy churches with some outdated views. This pissed heaps of people off.
New CEO was gone after a day.
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@mariner4life said in AFL 2022:
looooooool at Essington
They hire a new CEO. it automatically looks a shit hire given why he was rissoled from his last job (okay yes he "resigned" but come on)
Then it turns out he's a member of one of those pretty crazy churches with some outdated views. This pissed heaps of people off.
New CEO was gone after a day.
unfortunately that doesn't narrow it down much....
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@Kiwiwomble said in AFL 2022:
@mariner4life said in AFL 2022:
looooooool at Essington
They hire a new CEO. it automatically looks a shit hire given why he was rissoled from his last job (okay yes he "resigned" but come on)
Then it turns out he's a member of one of those pretty crazy churches with some outdated views. This pissed heaps of people off.
New CEO was gone after a day.
unfortunately that doesn't narrow it down much....
yeah fair point
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i missed the best part. The new/former CEO led the review to hire the new CEO and selected himself!!
Fuck that's awesome.
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@mariner4life what?...was he brought in as a external evaluator or something and just selected himself?
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@Kiwiwomble said in AFL 2022:
@mariner4life what?...was he brought in as a external evaluator or something and just selected himself?
in a nutshell, yes
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Joe Aston from the Fin Review rarely misses a punch!
God saved Essendon from Andrew Thorburn
The appointment of the former NAB CEO to run the Essendon Football Club landed like a turd in the punch bowl.
The appointment of former National Australia Bank boss Andrew Thorburn as the CEO of Essendon Football Club landed like a turd in the punch bowl.
The fierce indignation centred on Thorburn’s extracurricular role as the chairman of a church that espouses Old Testament views of homosexuality as a “sexual immorality” and compares abortion to the Holocaust. “Absolutely appalling” is how Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews described these attitudes on Tuesday, and himself as a “disappointed Essendon supporter”.That’s low-hanging fruit, to be sure, but Thorburn’s fire and brimstone side hustle has completely overshadowed two other preposterous ingredients of this story: first, the way in which Thorburn finagled the gig; and second, the Essendon board’s collective delusion in believing him “a man of great integrity and exceptional vision”.
Late on Tuesday, Thorburn resigned just 24 hours into his commission. Earlier in the day, he was defending how “my faith has helped me become a better leader”.
“That’s really what I want people to look at, look at my actions, look at my words as a leader and the organisations I’ve created…”
His last organisation charged customers – including dead ones – more than $650 million in fees for no service, then in the witness stand he tried to dismiss it as carelessness.
This man of great integrity was so soundly flayed by the Royal Commission into Misconduct in the Banking, Superannuation and Financial Services Industry that he was forced to resign immediately upon the release of its final report.
It caused commissioner Kenneth Hayne some umbrage that “Mr Thorburn sought to assert that no one knew this was happening. The money just kept ‘falling into NAB’s pocket’… He sought to portray the charging of fees for no service as a product of poor systems and carelessness. It was, in his words, ‘just professional negligence’… I cannot and do not accept this.”
Rotten culture
Hayne found that “NAB also stands apart from the other three major banks. Having heard from both the CEO, Mr Thorburn, and the chair, Dr [Ken] Henry… I was not persuaded that NAB is willing to accept the necessary responsibility for deciding, for itself, what is the right thing to do, and then having its staff act accordingly … Overall, my fear – that there may be a wide gap between the public face NAB seeks to show and what it does in practice – remains.”
This is unequivocally the description of an unethical organisation whose rotten culture flowed down from the very top.On Monday, Essendon president David Barham boasted that, “to my knowledge, no other AFL club has ever secured the services of an ASX-listed top 10 company CEO to run its club”.
Barham omitted a key adjective here. Thorburn is a disgraced former ASX 10 company CEO. No other AFL club has ever secured the services of a disgraced former ASX 10 company CEO for the very good reason that no other AFL club has ever sought to.
How was it, precisely, that Essendon secured Thorburn’s services? Melbourne’s Herald Sun reported on August 27 that Thorburn had been engaged by Essendon to “conduct an independent review … which will focus on”, among other things, “the appointment of a new CEO”.That’s right, Thorburn did at Essendon Football Club in 2022 precisely what David Gonski did at the Future Fund in 2012 and what Dick Cheney did in 2000 as chairman of George W. Bush’s vice-presidential search committee: he used his position as the headhunter to win the job for himself.
Thorburn even interviewed other (unsuspecting) candidates for the role – memorising the best parts of their pitches, no doubt! – before declaring himself a candidate. How is that ethical?!
Essendon is obviously sensitive about the dreadful optics here, given its torturous explanation of how Thorburn went from refereeing the race to raising the trophy.
You also couldn’t expect Thorburn to fix Essendon’s historically scandalous culture. This is the same guy whose chief of staff defrauded NAB of $5 million without him having a clue. The judge said he found it “absolutely staggering that those frauds were not detected by some appropriate system of internal auditing”.
It is a striking reality that in football today, being on the wrong side of diversity and inclusion issues is considered a far bigger black mark on a person than their questionable integrity or their record of ripping people off.
Barham is quite clearly out of his depth. His first press conference as president – defending the sacking of coach Ben Rutten – goes down as one of the worst in AFL history.
But Essendon is a weird club full of deeply weird people. Thorburn would’ve fit right in.
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@ACT-Crusader holy shit that is a depressingly funny article.
Weirdest club. Convinced of their own importance despite 2 decades of irrelevance on the field, and known more for scandal and poor governance off it.
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@mariner4life Aston is a very perceptive journo that has a good mix of insight, candour and humour
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@ACT-Crusader Joe Aston is a great writer for the AFR.
On the topic of Thorburn, his professional capacity as CEO of NAB should've ensured his name was never in the running before his beliefs became the issue.
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@antipodean said in AFL 2022:
@ACT-Crusader Joe Aston is a great writer for the AFR.
On the topic of Thorburn, his professional capacity as CEO of NAB should've ensured his name was never in the running before his beliefs became the issue.
well, when you select yourself...
"i looked in to my background and found that really i did nothing wrong, so i hired myself"
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What I did find funny ,
On Sen Andy Marr who is a bit of a cheerleader for wokeism , was blasting Essendon for employing someone with these outdated views , but is also a big bacher houli fan , opened up the lines ,
After about ten calls in a row of people calling him a hypocrite because he loves houli and muslims, and they have these same outdated views on homosexuality and abortions , changed subject
