2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby
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Didn't get there in time for the Shield curtainraiser but was told it was something like HB Under 19s 39 Hurricanes Heartland Under 20s 17? Whatever it actually was it was a decisive margin in favour of the Bay. Did not feel sorry in the slightest for Darren Larsen who looked very morose outside the visitor's changing rooms when I went past them. Naturally I gave him a wave and a smile as I went past!
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@Stargazer OK I'll believe you but either way it was a kick up the bum for Mr. Larsen.
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In addition to the great results from the Tui and Magpies, here are today's other results:
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The U19's 39-27 win over Hurricanes Hearland has already been mentioned. With that win, they finished 2nd in the Central Region Shield competition. Wellington U19 retained the Shield.
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The Development team suffered a big loss to Wellington Centurions: 17 - 55. I think this was their last game, too, but not sure.
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The U18s beat Wairarapa Bush 52 - 13, while it's worth mentioning that next week's opponents - Wellington U18 - lost to Poverty Bay!
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The Hawke's Bay Māori team won their second game of the Te Upoko o Te Ika Tournament, beating Poverty Bay Māori 29 - 17. Canterbury Māori won the tournament after beating Wellington Māori 59 - 24.
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@Stargazer Don't get too excited abput the Wellington v Poverty Bay result as Wellington have about four or five Under 18 Teams eg Wellington Samoans Under 18, Wellington Samoans Under 18 Development, Wellington Centurions, Wellington Under 18s and Wellington Under 18 Development and probably Wellington Maori Under 18 so it could have been any one of those but lets rejoice at the result anyway!
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@Higgins This is their main/first U18 side, called (Wellington) Centurions RFC U18.
Those other Wellington U18 teams also played games.
The Hurricanes Youth Rugby Council and others around Wellington are still calling our Development and U18 team "Saracens", but the HBRU hasn't used that name for at least two years now.
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@Stargazer Ah well even more reason to rejoice then seeing that we benefit from a number of good Poverty Bay players arriving and playing in HB so it probably is a Poverty Bay team shorn of a lot of talent. Wonder how many of the Gissy boys will get on the bus and go home and how many will stay in HB!
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@Stargazer said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
In addition to the great results from the Tui and Magpies, here are today's other results:
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The U19's 39-27 win over Hurricanes Hearland has already been mentioned. With that win, they finished 2nd in the Central Region Shield competition. Wellington U19 retained the Shield.
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The Development team suffered a big loss to Wellington Centurions: 17 - 55. I think this was their last game, too, but not sure.
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The U18s beat Wairarapa Bush 52 - 13, while it's worth mentioning that next week's opponents - Wellington U18 - lost to Poverty Bay!
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The Hawke's Bay Māori team won their second game of the Te Upoko o Te Ika Tournament, beating Poverty Bay Māori 29 - 17. Canterbury Māori won the tournament after beating Wellington Māori 59 - 24.
The U16 and U16 Development teams will play their first game in two weeks.I believe the Under 18's score was actually 69-10. Josh Leach, playing at six, scored four of their 11 tries.
And the HB Under 16 Dev Team beat the HB Under 18 Co-Ed Team 35-28.
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From the pay-walled article (below) in the HBT about Hawke's Bay U19 (and Hurricanes U20) player Tino Savea:
It's a big chance to take, but teenaged rugby player Kusitino Savea - from Futuna - is taking it with Hawke's Bay, so far making almost every post a winner.
In his first year out of Lindisfarne College, Tino Savea has been a member of the Hawke's Bay Rugby Academy, played for the Hurricanes Under-20s and the Hawke's Bay Under-19s, and won the Hawke's Bay Premier club Maddison Trophy final with Taradale.
But he recognises they're only the first steps if he's to follow the other Savea, one of the few New Zealand rugby names he was aware of when he first came to New Zealand in a Futuna team for the Lindisfarne Under-15 tournament in 2018.
It was there that he was noticed and offered a scholarship at the school, quickly making it into a Magpies queue of some quality and depth - ahead of him were future Ranfurly Shield holders and Super Rugby loose forwards such as Devan Flanders, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Josh Kaifa, and Solomona Funaki.
As it happens, Wallis and Futuna, a French territory and island group of about 16,000 people in the South Pacific - between Tuvalu to the northwest, Fiji to the southwest, Tonga to the southeast, Samoa to the east, and Tokelau to the northeast - has produced a surprising number of players who have made it in big-time rugby.
Where Savea made the choice to come here, most of the rest went with their French connections to the Northern Hemisphere. At least 13 have played professional rugby in France in the last two decades, and at least nine have played internationally for France. They include Noumea-born lock Sebastien Vahaamihina, who played 46 games for France, scoring a try in his last when the Tricolours were beaten 20-19 by Wales in a 2019 Rugby World Cup quarter-final, and centre Yoram Moefana, born on Futuna and who has made seven appearances for France since 2020.
Another who ventured north was Laurent Simutoga, a France Under-20 representative now coaching at Lindisfarne.
Tino Savea, as far as he is aware, is not related to Wellington-born Ardie Savea, although teammates and club supporters have tried to make a connection.
And he's not, specifically, after the No 7 jersey for the All Blacks, he says in good English (that he's learnt in New Zealand). Savea hails from a background of French speakers and local dialects, growing up in the villages of Ono (population 524 in the 2018 census) and Kolia (pop. 254), in the Alo district on the southern coast of Futuna, an island of barely 80 square kilometres.
"It took me a couple of months [to learn English]," Savea says, something that highlights he's not just here for the football. He's also a fulltime nursing student.
He's also had to bulk up, from about 95 kilos last year to the 110kg he reckoned he needed.
"I wanted to play Prems, from last year," he says. "I knew what I have to do to get looked at by the Magpies."
It was a good season, till he took a knock to the ribs 60 minutes into the Maddison Trophy final, but he was out just a short time, missing the first of the Under-19 team's four-match representative programme.
And the try scorers of Saturday's U19 game v Hurricanes Heartland:Tries were scored by Sam Cavanagh, Hame Lauaki, Nik Patumaka, Bethel Malasia, Gilgal Malasia, Troydyn Bird, and Harry Godfrey, who also kicked two conversions, in a 39-27 win over the Hurricanes Heartland Unions Under-20 selection on Saturday, claiming second place in their Hurricanes region competition.
Rugby: Hawke's Bay has a Savea of its own
Kusitino Savea has a famous rugby surname - but he's out to make a name of his own.
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@Stargazer What is on the menu for other Rep Teams this weekend? Surely the HB Samoans are due to be having a home game or even an age grade development team. It is a long time to fill in before we get to 7.05pm kickoff time for The Bay's encounter with Wellington.
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@Higgins As far as I know, the season is over for the Development team, U19s, Hawke's Bay Māori, Hawke's Bay Samoa and Central Hawke's Bay rep team.
Saturday, 17 September 2022
U16 'A' and U16 Development (preseason)
Location: Lincoln park, Ashurst
Kick-off times: U16 Development 11.00am and U16 'A' 12.15pm
Opposition: no idea (Manawatū would be my guess, but there's nothing on the Manawatū website)Wellington Centurions U18 v Hawke's Bay U18
Location: Lyndhurst Park, Tawa
Kick-off: 1.00pmU18 girls: no info whatsoever, except that they are training.
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Our U18 team v Wellington:
This looks like a very good squad. Several players from last week's Napier Boys' squad are in this line-up, but not Gus Brown and Max Ratcliffe (who seemed to be playing with an injury, so probably good to have a rest before the Hurricanes U18 camp).
Edited to add that I think that Daniel Toala is indeed a brother of Danny Toala.
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Rep games on Saturday 24 September 2022:
HB U16 'A' v Manawatū U16 - Tremain Field - k/o 1.00pm
Trustbank Central Secondary School Shield Final:
HB U18 v Wellington Samoa U18 - Tremain Field - k/o 1.00pm(There's an earlier game at 11.00am between Poverty Bay U18 and Manawatū U18 Development)
The HB U16 Development v Poverty Bay U16 game is on Monday 26 September 2022 at Lambton Square, Wairoa. K/o 1.15pm.
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