New Zealand under 20
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Very impressive display PH. Some definite future stars on display I would think.
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Intercept try by Daly in overtime. <br><br>
Finishes 37-7. <br><br>
Commiserations Argentina. <br><br>
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Very impressive display PH. Some definite future stars on display I would think.</p></blockquote>
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It was BT. Very impressive. Carolan deserves a lot of kudos - well drilled squad. <br><br>
Deegan has got great feet for an 8. Daly, Ryan, Porter, McBurney all good up front. McPhillps and Kerins did well at halves. Like the look of Stockdale at FB. <br><br>
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Great game between France and Japan. Try fest by both teams tiring it up twice before France score two more. 41-27
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I recorded the Wales vs NZ game earlier, don't think I'll bother watching
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NZ were 21-0 in the first 12 mins, I think. A combination of everything clicking, every ball bouncing their way, and Wales playing like shop mannequins. When it got to 28-0, I half expected the ref to call time early out of kindness. Fair play to the Welsh lads for keeping going, but they were never at the races.
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So...England U20 vs Ireland U20 in the final. Changing of the guard...?
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Sun was out.</p></blockquote>
What are we? Fiji?<br><br>
Yeah right, it rains heaps in NZ and schoolboy rugby fields aren't the perfect draining sand based ones that they play on here. Should be one of the best prepared wet weather teams. -
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So...England U20 vs Ireland U20 in the final. Changing of the guard...?</p></blockquote>
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Dunno. Does the annual Six Nations at U 18 and U20 start to bear fruit at some point? <br><br>
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<p>So...England U20 vs Ireland U20 in the final. Changing of the guard...?</p>
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<p>yep, we are farked!</p> -
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<p>What are we? Fiji?<br><br>
Yeah right, it rains heaps in NZ and schoolboy rugby fields aren't the perfect draining sand based ones that they play on here. Should be one of the best prepared wet weather teams.</p>
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<p>Moala-Liava'a was probably the best on show against Wales. He really should've had a bigger role in the team in pool play.</p>
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<p>Even in a dominate performance, Mitch Jacobson still looked pretty poor. Someone like Uini Fetalaiga blows this guy out the water, but didn't even get a trial with the squad.</p>
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<p>That pass by Taumateine to Makene to set up a try was pretty neat. It was like an anticipation throw in football.</p> -
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<p><strong>Moala-Liava'a was probably the best on show against Wales. He really should've had a bigger role in the team in pool play.</strong></p>
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<p>Even in a dominate performance, Mitch Jacobson still looked pretty poor. Someone like Uini Fetalaiga blows this guy out the water, but didn't even get a trial with the squad.</p>
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<p>That pass by Taumateine to Makene to set up a try was pretty neat. It was like an anticipation throw in football.</p>
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<p>Maybe, but not at no. 8. Mikaele-Tu'u was clearly the best forward during the pool games and fully deserved his starts.</p>
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<p>Maybe, but not at no. 8. Mikaele-Tu'u was clearly the best forward during the pool games and fully deserved his starts.</p>
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<p>Agree about Mitch Jacobson.</p>
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<p>Agreed, but there is always the blindside spot. I don't think Luke Jacobson showed very much either. Even if Luke did a bit behind the scenes, he could always move to openside ahead of Mitch.</p> -
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No surprise to see England there. Ireland have a great crop this year. Not only some very good athletes but technically excellent players. Scott Robertson said they didn't want to play any rugby against the baby blacks, which makes you wonder what match he was watching. <br><br><br>
Considering only Jacob Stockdale has any pro 12 experience, it's not surprising they started slowly. England have premiership players and look physically more developed, with the exception of Ireland's Andrew Porter. <br><br><br>
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It comes down to the attitude towards scrummaging IMO. Scrums are more important in the NY because the game is slower, wetter with less scoring opportunities etc. Therefore more emphasis is put on winning penalties to score. <br><br><br>
I'm sure the same schoolboy rules apply world wide. The problem with the NZ U20s is that to me it looks like they've picked props on size or ball carrying ability rather than scrummaging ability. Ireland used to do that but never had a great scrum so they had to focus more on the technical side of things. Less focus on size and ball carrying. They spoke about getting under the NZ scrum last week. <br><br><br>
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<p>No surprise to see England there. Ireland have a great crop this year. Not only some very good athletes but technically excellent players. Scott Robertson said they didn't want to play any rugby against the baby blacks, which makes you wonder what match he was watching.<br><br><br>
Considering only Jacob Stockdale has any pro 12 experience, it's not surprising they started slowly. England have premiership players and look physically more developed, with the exception of Ireland's Andrew Porter.<br><br><br>
So to answer your question. The gap is narrowing between Australia, South Africa and the rest but NZ have nothing to worry about for a while yet. they're technically miles ahead of the rest.</p>
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<p>England aren't that big/physically developed this year. Certainly have a bit of size in the backline with Mallinder/Williams playing 10 and 12 which was enforced with the first choice 10 injured in the first game. The pack though were much smaller than Oz in the pool game (think it was by 65kg). They've benefited from the availability of a few AP players, as you say, but Haag is also a big step up from Callard on the coaching side. They really were poor in the 6N and the pack is mostly the same here.</p>
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<p>Looking forward to the final. I've been impressed by Ireland, they look a decent side and it should be close on Saturday.</p>
