2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby
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Good 32 - 5 win from the Tui, today. Centre Amelia Pasikala is a seriously good player. Very strong and powerful. I bet she'd also do well as a loosie.
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Just a reminder that the HB Bs (or whatever name they are going under this season) are taking on Wanganui over at Park Island's Tremain Field on Saturday - kick off at 2.30pm. Sadly that's the same time the A team are dealing to Waikato up in Hamilton but I know where I am going to be.
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@Higgins Thanks for that. Where did you find/hear this info? I've been looking for it.
It would be great if the HBRU had a page or pages on their website about representative rugby and a schedule of their games. Don't see them on the app either. In the past, you could find them on the HB Referees website, but they now refer to the app.
Edit: I assume you mean the team that used to be known under the name of the Hawke's Bay Saracens? I think they now just call them the Hawke's Bay Development team.
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@Stargazer Think Sky TV would have the biggest say what time the games are to be played
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@Stargazer Have the lineups for this afternoons Wanganui v HB Saracens game at Tremain Field been revealed yet as I'd like to take a copy with me so I know who is who whilst watching the game?
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@Stargazer Looks like the top of this page sums up the HBRFU information releasing attitude to a tee or at least in this instance
https://www.sporty.co.nz/magpies/ABOUT-US-1/HBRU-Staff -
I am not sure what the final score was but something like Wanganui 50 - 27 HB Saracens would be close.
Embarrassingly for all concerned there were no ballboys and no scoreboard or time clock operating (even though they were there sitting waiting for the on switch to be flicked), nor were any team sheets handed out at the gate. Furthermore there was a curtainraiser between Hawkes Bay Under 19 and Taranaki Under 19 that seemed to take everyone by surprise as all those I spoke to were not aware of it taking place before they arrived at the ground. No idea of the score but Taramaki took a scrum right on full time from a very easy kickable penalty so that would indicate they were probably at least four points behind.
To sum it all up maybe the HBRFU also were unaware of both the games taking place given the absence of anything you would normally expect to see? It might have been games played at the amateur level but that does not mean there has to be an amateur effort put into staging the events.
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Just saw the results of today's rep games on Twitter:
Hawke's Bay U19 38 - 17 Taranaki U19
Hawke's Bay Development 27 - 45 Whanganui
Horowhenua Kapiti 40 - 17 Central Hawkes BayIn the Farah Palmer Cup, the Tui had a big win against Northland in Whangārei: 32 - 17!
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At least the Wanganui press knew the game was on and even sent their own reporter over to compile a report. Interestingly both newspapers (HB & Wanganui) are owned by the same organisation, but far different sports news priorities in each by the looks of things.
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@Higgins Ha, I had read exactly the same text on the Whanganui Rugby website. They must have the same close relationship with the Whanganui Chronicle that the HBRU used to have with the HBT (until the HBT significantly reduced their rugby coverage; unfortunately, nothing to find on the Hawke's Bay Rugby app anymore either).
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I have no doubt there will be an U19 (preseason) game, this weekend, as the official tournament for the Central Region Shield starts on 27 August. I haven't been able to find out yet, who and where they're playing. Most likely a team from outside the region. They have already played Waikato and Taranaki. Maybe BOP?
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@Stargazer Given the paucity of information we got last weekend you would be better advised scrutinising the websites/social media thingys of possible opponents than wasting time with their HB counterparts.
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@Stargazer said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Higgins Haha, yes, working on it!
@Number-10 At the next HBRU meeting you should suggest that they use some of their small surplus to retain @Stargazer's services and he can run their social media/media/team releases etc as he basically does it for free now.
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@Nepia Hahaha. They should just do what others do: publish squad lists and their playing schedule on their website. Look at Waikato's U19 page. Easy peasy. Then one post on their FB page with the match day 23 (& k/o time + venue) before the match and one post after with the result. Done!
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Can anyone give a little info on Ross Shield please.
Teams? From what I remember South CHB, West etc who else
Weight restrictions?
Age, Y7 & 8 and are Y6 players eligible?
Do they have a tournament team that goes to Roller Mills?
Cheers
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@Paj Hi Paj, here's some info:
The Ross Shield tournament is usually held in the first week of October.
The participating teams are Central HB, Hastings West, Wairoa, Dannevirke, Napier and Hastings East.
Players may not have passed Year 8 (so no high school students), is age-restricted to players under 14 years old and weight-restricted to kids under 57kg. Teams can be mixed boys and girls (although the number of girls is still limited).
At the end of the tournament week, a tournament team will be named that will play one or two games, but never heard they go on to Roller Mills. There are several trophies to be played for, too.There is also another weight restricted tournament - the Wakely Shield Tournament - that is played the following week.
Teams: Hastings East, Saracens, Napier East, Wairoa, Napier West, Central HB, Hastings West and Barbarians.
Not sure of age restrictions, but the weight restriction is 50kg.Here's a link to the Ross Shield programme of 2015 that has a lot of interesting info about the Ross Shield tournament: https://knowledgebank.org.nz/text/ross-shield-2015-programme/
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@Stargazer 57kg, wish it was that weight in my day (I think it was 50 or 52kg) then I wouldn't have had to starve myself on the bus.
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@Higgins said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Nepia Think it might have been eight stone weight limit when I played in the early 70s. Need I gloat but my team won every game to nil en route to winning the Shield!
That's roughly 50kg? So it didn't change much in a decade and a bit.
Sadly we didn't win, we came second to the evil empire of Napier. Was the final tournament that Taupo played in (and it was in Taupo).
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@Stargazer Thanks mate,
I never made it as was to heavy, my brother played in one year.
My son has made Ross Brown, Taranaki's equivalent and it's picked on School Zones, not Clubs. South, Central, West and North. The weight limit up to 3 years ago was 57.5kgs as that was required to go to Roller Mills. Now they no longer enter RM's as too expensive they pushed weight to 60kgs.
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@Higgins said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Nepia Think it might have been eight stone weight limit when I played in the early 70s. Need I gloat but my team won every game to nil en route to winning the Shield!
1973 at Napier
Napier v
Taupo W 18-0
Central HB W 4-0
Hastings W 8-0
Wairoa W 8-0
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@Number-10 That's it thanks. From memory it was rather wet and cold until the last day when we ran riot over Dannevirke. Think one of the tries against Nepia's outfit came rather late in the game and against the run of play but still 4 - 0 was a comfortable margin until that burst doubled the Napier score.
Must hunt around to see if my Ross Shield Cap is in the safe place I stored it many years ago but forget where that safe place was! -
Today (Sat 13 August 2022):
Tui v Taranaki at 2.05pm, Tremain Field. The Tui should be able to win this game:
In addition to the Tui and the Poverty Bay v Hawke's Bay Development game in Gisborne (The Rectory at 2.30pm), there are two more games:Central Hawke's Bay v Manawatū Māori at Takapau Domain (1.00pm)
Hawke's Bay Māori v Hawke's Bay Samoa at Farndon Park (3.00pm)
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Hawkes Bay Maori 26 27 Hawkes Bay Samoa 5 tries to 4 but Samoa could only convert 1
Even allowing for my poor scoreboard attempt last night I'm pretty sure that was right but I got there after the first ten minutes so had to rely on others but general consensus was seventeen nil to Samoa at half time.
Not much of a game to watch but Samoa certainly attacked very effectively almost bulldozer style with the Maori spinning it wider a bit more often but as it was a sort of warm up friendly the winners used what appeared to be a rolling sub rule waaaaaaay more often than the Maori side did. Some of the tackling was very hard but mostly legal with a number of splendid around the knees tackles bringing the larger players to the ground. Overall the winner was the better on the day and in reality should have won by a bit more than they did, a couple of late Maori tries closed it up a bit.
A decent crowd of about five hundred or thereabouts watched in chilly but sunny and fine weather at Farndon Park which was in good order and not the slightest bit slippery or muddy. -
Today's results:
Hawke's Bay Tui 45 - 15 Taranaki Whio
Hawke's Bay Māori 26 - 25 Hawke's Bay Samoa
Central Hawke's Bay 24 - 17 Manawatū Māori
Poverty Bay 22 - 17 Hawke's Bay Development -
@Stargazer Ah well there you go, two incorrect scores by me in a row, old age must be catching up with me! Travesty of justice really as the Samoans were the more effective team and should have won but for lack of an accurate goalkicker (admittedly their tries were mostly score out near the sideline and the kicks were reasonable attempts) and a couple of very lucky tries going against them.
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@Higgins said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:
@Stargazer Ah well there you go, two incorrect scores by me in a row, old age must be catching up with me! Travesty of justice really as the Samoans were the more effective team and should have won but for lack of an accurate goalkicker (admittedly their tries were mostly score out near the sideline and the kicks were reasonable attempts) and a couple of very lucky tries going against them.
Didn’t they teach you maths in those Napier schools? 🤣
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@Nepia If you must know I got the 17 - 00 halftime scoreline yesterday from a bunch of Clive players/supporters, two of whom I personally know attended Te Aute College! My tallying from them on used that as the starting point.
That however does not excuse Friday night when I simply forgot about the Bay's second half try. In mitigation we were so far on top and had scored so many tries it is easy to forget one or two of them. -
@Stargazer Can't find where you posted this weekends Rep Fixtures so could you stick them in this topic thanks as I am in the process of arranging things so I can get to the Saracens v Centurions game if it is up this way.
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Rep games Saturday, 19 August 2022:
Hawke's Bay Development v Wellington Centurions - Tremain Field, Napier - 1.00pm
Central Hawke's Bay v Whanganui Development - Coronation Park, Waipawa - 1.00pm
Manawatū Māori v Hawke's Bay Māori - CET Arena 4, Palmerston North - 2.00pmThe HBRU doesn't post any info about rep games, so this all come from other pages. I have not been able to find any info about our Under 19s, yet.
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@Stargazer Thank you, probably be going to Park Island rather than NBHS although there is the possibility to do the first half at Te Awa before hurredly hot footing it over to Tamatea depending of the schools game kick off time
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