Exodus 2016

Stockcar86

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Buckman may be staying with the Highlanders, but he has also signed a contract with Panasonic Wild Knights. Confirmed by the club.
 
Anyone on the Fern able to translate this: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://panasonic.co.jp/sports/rugby/info/detail/2016/160609105231109/'>http://panasonic.co.jp/sports/rugby/info/detail/2016/160609105231109/</a> ?
 
Would like to know what it says about Buckman and Hawke's Bay; and for how many years he has signed.
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No contract period mentioned, but he will be missing the NPC to play as the Japan top league season starts early September

taniwharugby

seems they give this to a few of those as a reward for long service, but appears they usually only allow it for 1 season; Tamati Ellison, Josh Blackie and was a canes loosie too, Lilo?

Nepia

Buckman - dead to me.

gt12

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He said he was missing it with regret.. 
Because of the opportunity to play top league 
lol.

JayCee

"Charlie Faumuina reportedly heading to France"
 
"All Blacks and Blues prop Charlie Faumuina has signed with Toulouse and will join the club next year, according to a French newspaper.
Midi Olympique has reported the 29-year-old, who played his 34th test for the All Blacks in last weekend's 39-21 victory over Wales at Eden Park, will join the club after next year's Super Rugby season.
The newspaper said Faumuina would replace Manu Samoa prop Census Johnston, a player who has tread a fine line between club and country over the years."
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11656415'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11656415</a>

jauzy19

Hooker Quentin MacDonald (Blues) joins french club Oyonnax on a 2-year deal.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.usorugby.com/quentin-macdonald-rejoint-lus-oyonnax-rugby/'>http://www.usorugby.com/quentin-macdonald-rejoint-lus-oyonnax-rugby/</a>

Billy Tell

I always thought MacDonald was a bit under-used. Decent enough hooker the times I saw him play.

taniwharugby

So Charlie to leave weeks after Lions....will that see him miss out?

Billy Tell

No. Hansen won't cut off his nice to spite his face. His job is to beat the lions not hand out punishments to players who sign to move overseas.

Frye

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So Charlie to leave weeks after Lions....will that see him miss out?</blockquote>
 
Victor Vito and Charlie Piutau would probably say yes.

Stargazer

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"Charlie Faumuina reportedly heading to France"
 
"All Blacks and Blues prop Charlie Faumuina has signed with Toulouse and will join the club next year, according to a French newspaper.
Midi Olympique has reported the 29-year-old, who played his 34th test for the All Blacks in last weekend's 39-21 victory over Wales at Eden Park, will join the club after next year's Super Rugby season.
The newspaper said Faumuina would replace Manu Samoa prop Census Johnston, a player who has tread a fine line between club and country over the years."
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11656415'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11656415</a>
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The Midi Olympique doesn't always get it right. I'd wait for an official announcement. Until then, this is just a rumour IMO.

Stargazer

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So Charlie to leave weeks after Lions....will that see him miss out?
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If Nepo Laulala is fit, yes, I think so.

Chris B.

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Hooker Quentin MacDonald (Blues) joins french club Oyonnax on a 2-year deal.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.usorugby.com/quentin-macdonald-rejoint-lus-oyonnax-rugby/'>http://www.usorugby.com/quentin-macdonald-rejoint-lus-oyonnax-rugby/</a>
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Mako$ suddenly leaking stalwarts - Banks, Wheeler, MacDonald.
 
Quentin had a serious knee injury and never seemed quite the same player after he came back - especially with ball in hand.

Provincial Stalwart

I will follow this story with interest, although I daresay Hansen and co will be more interested than I. Certainly Faumuina appears to be set to stay for the Lions tour judging by the report, but if the signing eventuates he is certainly risking getting axed when Laulala returns or if Tu'ungafasi or another tighthead develops at pace.
 
Due to his current ranking as clear #2 tighthead and bench weapon, he will be missed there's no doubt. Faumuina is not a star AB as he is stuck behind a similar aged man in Franks who seldom gets injured (Franks will end up with 120+ test caps if he stays fit through to RWC 2019). However this situation to me, in playing terms, is more of a blow than the Piutau defection (Piutau was maybe a squad certainty but had to start to make the matchday 23). The other main differentiation with Piutau is the "underhand" circumstances in which Piutau signed. Faumuina is about 5 years older than Piutau but being a prop (compared to an outside back) may actually have a similar longevity.
 
Financial security and less travel is obviously a massive pull factor for family men rugby players. As for push factors, it's hard to say. Faumuina's wife was assaulted (while pregnant) a couple of years back by some pieces of shit and that court process dragged on. I'm not sure how badly that incident and its aftermath affects his family's desire to live in Auckland (probably somewhat at least) but perhaps a change of scene was attractive as well as the coin.

Derm McCrum

Not exactly an exodus story but Leinster have announced that they've hired Graham Henry as a coaching advisor for start of next season. Good proactive move by Leo Cullen to get some coaching advice for himself and his coaching team for a short-term arrangement, and to avoid being replaced as happened with Foley in Munster. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/pro12/leinster-hire-graham-henry-as-coaching-consultant-1.2687659'>http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/pro12/leinster-hire-graham-henry-as-coaching-consultant-1.2687659</a>

jauzy19

Tanerau Latimer (Blues) linked with a move to french club Bayonne.

Hooroo

I keep forgetting he is even back in NZ

Stargazer

Not really an exodus, but I thought this was the best place to post it.
 
Former-Hurricanes (etc) and former-Magpies Alby Mathewson and Karl Lowe have signed with Pro D2 club Provence Rugby. Their signing is under the condition that the club will stay in the Pro D2 competition and won't be relegated to the next tier down, FÃ©dÃ©rale 1.
 
Provence Rugby (formerly called Pays d'Aix) finished last during the regular 2015-2016 season - after having been promoted to Pro D2 the year before - and would normally be relegated. However, as I understand it, clubs in Pro D2 need to pass a financial audit. If they don't pass this audit, they will be relegated for financial reasons. As two clubs are relegated each year from Pro D2, Provence Rugby will be able to stay in the Pro D2 if it passes its financial audit and two other Pro D2 teams don't pass (or the teams to be promoted from FÃ©dÃ©rale 1 don't pass). The Pro D2 website already mentions that one club (Tarbes) will be relegated. Three other clubs have also not passed their financial audits and will be relegated if their appeal procedures are unsuccessful. So it seems to depend on the outcome of these procedures whether Provence Rugby will stay in the Pro D2, and thus whether Mathewson and Lowe will join the club.
 
Provence Rugby is a club that normally sits at the bottom of Pro D2 or the top of FÃ©dÃ©rale 1, so promoting and relegating regularly. Not really a great club in sporting terms, but perhaps the money is good and the Provence is - I think - an attractive province to live. Both players are over 30 after all, and have young families.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.provencerugby.com/actualite/a-la-une/effectif-20162017-les-arrivees/'>http://www.provencerugby.com/actualite/a-la-une/effectif-20162017-les-arrivees/</a>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.provencerugby.com/actualite/a-la-une/mathewson-et-loamanu-dans-le-projet-pro-d2/'>http://www.provencerugby.com/actualite/a-la-une/mathewson-et-loamanu-dans-le-projet-pro-d2/</a>
 
PS: another former Magpie - RÃ©gis Lespinas - has also joined the club.
 
Edit: Provence Rugby plays in black or black and white. Maybe that's why they signed ;)

Milk

Last I heard Alby was trying to get dispensation from the ARU to continue playing at the Force (apparently they cap the tenure of their imports). So I guess he either didn't get that or he realised the Force sux.

Stargazer

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Last I heard Alby was trying to get dispensation from the ARU to continue playing at the Force (apparently they cap the tenure of their imports). So I guess he either didn't get that or he realised the Force sux.
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Yes, I read that, too. Or maybe there's truth in the rumours that the Force may be ditched after the 2017 season and he's taking the opportunity to earn better money in Europe before that happens.

The Silver Fern

Exodus 2016