Super Rugby 2022
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@Kiwiwomble I take my hat off to Oz rugby for trying things like the MARC etc but it’s damn hard to get the necessary traction to make it economically viable in a crowded Oz winter sports market.
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@Nepia most people want a domestic comp. I don't get this weird thing where everyone keeps telling us what we actually want. SR has never had great buy in here.
Edit: and I still think Aus teams should play Kiwi teams - it just shouldn't be the entire comp. Champions cup style crossover would be my preference.
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So, if we lose the Australian teams, what is the option?
I'd consider setting up a 12 team competition (10 NZ sides, MP, Drua or another South Pacific team) to replace Super/NPC.
We could then try to get a competition going with the Japanese league one teams with a cross over tournament (Championship, bowl, plate).
We could add Oz teams as well, but if they walk out on us, I'd try to fuck them up and leave them isolated by closing off Japan from them, and leaving them 100% in the cold.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Kiwiwomble I take my hat off to Oz rugby for trying things like the MARC etc but it’s damn hard to get the necessary traction to make it economically viable in a crowded Oz winter sports market.
my wild speculation is they might think they can use RWC money to bankroll a new competition until (if?) it becomes sustainable...not sure we would see this kind of thing if they hadn't won the RWC
@Derpus said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Nepia most people want a domestic comp. I don't get this weird thing where everyone keeps telling us what we actually want. SR has never had great buy in here.
Edit: and I still think Aus teams should play Kiwi teams - it just shouldn't be the entire comp. Champions cup style crossover would be my preference.
thats the key point i think, still have some spectacle for a couple of weeks...but with something behind it to actually grow talent and interest
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@Derpus said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Nepia most people want a domestic comp. I don't get this weird thing where everyone keeps telling us what we actually want. SR has never had great buy in here.
Edit: and I still think Aus teams should play Kiwi teams - it just shouldn't be the entire comp. Champions cup style crossover would be my preference.
I know Super rugby has dropped in popularuty Derpus, but I lived in Aus from 1996 until a couple of years back, and it was incredibly popular up to expansion yeams, and even in Qld where I was there were bloody great crowds up too a few years back
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
we've instantly identified the problem we will never sold
in trying to have "no losers" we won't have many winners either
Combining unions will not work. Game sharing, branding, it will all get muddled.
Places are going to have to lose.
You're talking about winning and losing and then start blathering about having teams based on population - the ultimate in rewarding participation!!!
Let's reward the most successful unions. Then the only question is whether Ta$man gets two teams...
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@Higgins said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Chris-B The depth of the combined Marlborough-Nelson Bays Union bank account must be bigger than I thought.
Forget about money.
Check out the big brain on Leon! We'll bring him back to coach our B team!!!
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@Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2022:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
we've instantly identified the problem we will never sold
in trying to have "no losers" we won't have many winners either
Combining unions will not work. Game sharing, branding, it will all get muddled.
Places are going to have to lose.
You're talking about winning and losing and then start blathering about having teams based on population - the ultimate in rewarding participation!!!
Let's reward the most successful unions. Then the only question is whether Ta$man gets two teams...
You want to have two teams who can't win the Ranfurly Shield?
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I don't see this being resolved any time soon.
‘They are not good partners’: McLennan puts boot into Kiwis ... again
Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan has lobbed another grenade back at New Zealand Rugby after being criticised by former All Blacks over his threat to go it alone.
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@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2022:
I don't see this being resolved any time soon.
Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan has lobbed another grenade back at New Zealand Rugby after being criticised by former All Blacks over his threat to go it alone.
Between this guy and Marinos, ARU are being run by absolute dickheads. Do they really think they can do better as the 3rd best oval ball code in Oz? They couldn't get a domestic comp to work before, I don't see its any different now
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@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2022:
I don't see this being resolved any time soon.
Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan has lobbed another grenade back at New Zealand Rugby after being criticised by former All Blacks over his threat to go it alone.
Absolute fucktard
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And yet he's right. NZRU have been shit to deal with and the idea of a domestic comp is worth consideration - particularly because the fans want it.
I don't really get why he's doing it via the media, though. Does seem childish/antagonistic.
All in all - we are in better shape shape now that when he took over so he can't all be bluster.
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Can we expect an article tomorrow or the next day where an administrator from MP and/or Drua is forced into a corner to “pick a side”, because either it’s a shrewd move by RA to mention them or an incredible overreach.
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@ACT-Crusader Drua are fucked if there's a split. Australian government have been providing them with funding but I'm pretty sure NZRU hold their 'licence' - although not sure what that would be worth anyway.
