Musk & Twitter
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“The Gates of Hell.” Lucifer/Satan/Trump (same thing) opened them. Reliable Sources.
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@Kid-Chocolate said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
“The Gates of Hell.” Lucifer/Satan/Trump (same thing) opened them. Reliable Sources.
Bloody hilarious coming from CNN with their long record of pushing fake news stories.
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when does elon take control of Twitter and how quickly do we thing we'll see changes?
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Clown world.
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I really don't get the cult of Musk.
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What I don’t get is the unhinged sky-is-falling hysteria and paranoia about him. It does make me laugh though.
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@antipodean said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
I really don't get the cult of Musk.
It's portrayed as a cult of Musk by people that dispise him, but if you aren't going to get excited by self driving cars and rockets that land themselves then you need to check for a pulse.
That's cool shit.
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@Kid-Chocolate said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
What I don’t get is the unhinged sky-is-falling hysteria and paranoia about him. It does make me laugh though.
Sure, that doesn't change my point.
@Kirwan said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
@antipodean said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
I really don't get the cult of Musk.
It's portrayed as a cult of Musk by people that dispise him, but if you aren't going to get excited by self driving cars and rockets that land themselves then you need to check for a pulse.
That's cool shit.
Yes it is, but self-driving cars aren't his and when it comes to the delivery of autonomous driving, he's the king of vapourware - every year it's "next year". He's also the same person that reinvented tunnels.
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@antipodean Lookup youtube videos of Tesla self driving beta, it's pretty impressive. Putting personalities aside, it's interesting tech and is being tested right now.
Yes, he makes wildly inaccurate predictions on delivery, but the same criticisms were made about landing boosters. Plenty of experts said that would never happen as well.
He seems to attact stawmen arguments on the internet like a magnet. He's never said they were anything other than tunnels to increase capacity for cars and move roads under ground in inner cities.
It's a solution for capacity and gridlock, a subway is a solution for inner city travel. For a train you have to walk at the beginning and end of your journey. This approach lets you continue your vehicle journey, and travel to it. US centric, sure, but they have a pretty big gridlock issue gettinn across cities and sprawling cities.
But lots of people think "yOu InVentED a tRain" is a great pwn.
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pfft i rode around a city in China in an autonomous bus 3 years ago.
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@Kirwan said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
@antipodean Lookup youtube videos of Tesla self driving beta, it's pretty impressive. Putting personalities aside, it's interesting tech and is being tested right now.
Yes, he makes wildly inaccurate predictions on delivery, but the same criticisms were made about landing boosters. Plenty of experts said that would never happen as well.
He seems to attact stawmen arguments on the internet like a magnet. He's never said they were anything other than tunnels to increase capacity for cars and move roads under ground in inner cities.
It's a solution for capacity and gridlock, a subway is a solution for inner city travel. For a train you have to walk at the beginning and end of your journey. This approach lets you continue your vehicle journey, and travel to it. US centric, sure, but they have a pretty big gridlock issue gettinn across cities and sprawling cities.
But lots of people think "yOu InVentED a tRain" is a great pwn.
Autonomous driving in my neighbour's tesla is, as far as I can tell, no different to my wife's Lexus.
- Stays in its lane. Mainly. Check.
- Shits itself when lanes merge. Check.
- Variable speed cruise control. Check.
- Identifies speed limit signs. Check.
The big difference is Lexus isn't promising autonomous driving every year. I'm a massive fan of the concept, but it turns out it's a massively difficult thing to do. Since TSLA is publicly tradeable stock, the SEC if it were barely competent would hold him to accou8nt for his bullshit.
His hyperloop. All promise, no delivery.
His boring company. All promise, no delivery.
Starlink by his own admission isn't a viable ongoing business in its current form.Everything funded on the absurd valuation of Tesla.
Someone mentions Spacex, I look to Rocket Lab.
In his favour I will admit that the cult of Musk has driven EV adoption. That's about it.
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@antipodean said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
Someone mentions Spacex, I look to Rocket Lab.
The cost to orbit for payloads more than 200kg has been revolutionised by SpaceX. If they get permission to drive starship launches, they could do another order of magnitude out of launches. Fully reusable rockets just boggle my brain.
So, not just EV, but revolutionising space access as well, and probably looking to colonise another world. That's a Pretty Big Deal
Edit: and he's a bit of a dick, too.
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As I said, look at the beta current being tested by 100,000 people and tell me if a Lexus is even close.
FSD is coming and the camera system they are using is very impressive.
As for your other comments. Hyper loop was an idea he had that he gave to other people, he has no involvement.
Boring company is getting projects in a few cities, but it’s early days. It may pay off, it may not early days. Personally, I think that’s part of him getting his ducks lined up for Mars. He wants to build tunnels up there too.
Starlink is a weird one to criticise. They already have more satellites up there than anyone else, and they are delivering very good speeds in remote places.
He has complete control on his biggest cost, getting them to orbit, and is launching something like 60 a week.A global ISP that can connect anywhere in the world will be a license to print money. Think of third world countries that can skip costly infrastructure buildouts.
We’ve seen the military applications in Ukraine, USA forces are also interested. Plenty of clients for that.
As for comparing Rocket Lab to SpaceX, that’s just embarrassing. Lookup the tonnage to orbit, it doesn’t compare. The contracts with NASA for the new moon missions and the regular contracts from all over the world. Huge business.
Not to mention getting people up into space.
SpaceX is easily the best run and most impactful business Elon has. (Probably not a coincidence he’s not the CEO).
Elon can be a complete dickhead, but his business ideas are pretty disruptive and very successful.
We have not talked about his battery business or the solar stuff either.
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I think Elon Musk is a true great, and will be the person of the 21st century.
However, he would be in jail for his corporate lies & front running if he was held to the same standards as all others.
It's those two facts as to why his popularity is so split down the middle.
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@MajorRage said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
I think Elon Musk is a true great, and will be the person of the 21st century.
However, he would be in jail for his corporate lies & front running if he was held to the same standards as all others.
It's those two facts as to why his popularity is so split down the middle.
And his Twitter posts.
Parts of our system are pretty corrupt. He’s certainly not the only one gaming the system and getting away with it.
Like I said, he’s not perfect and certainly a dick.
But the criticism I read is pretty inaccurate most of the time. It’s not hard to find out what he’s actually doing or what he’s said.
His portrayal in most media is fascinating. Wilfully inaccurate.
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For @antipodean ‘s cold heart
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@Kirwan said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
@MajorRage said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
I think Elon Musk is a true great, and will be the person of the 21st century.
However, he would be in jail for his corporate lies & front running if he was held to the same standards as all others.
It's those two facts as to why his popularity is so split down the middle.
And his Twitter posts.
Parts of our system are pretty corrupt. He’s certainly not the only one gaming the system and getting away with it.
Like I said, he’s not perfect and certainly a dick.
But the criticism I read is pretty inaccurate most of the time. It’s not hard to find out what he’s actually doing or what he’s said.
His portrayal in most media is fascinating. Wilfully inaccurate.
I don't even know if I would agree he was a dick. He' just heavily on the spectrum and doesn't think the same as the average person.
And I'm fairly sure that his wealth means he can hire law/legal experts who can ensure that every single thing he's ever said and done he cannot be prosecuted for. Especially in the US.