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    @duluth R-S is squatting more now. I've seen the stats, but not sure I'll be able to find them.

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    @duluth was more the overall article than the squatting amount I thought was good, certainly the type of player we need to keep developing.

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    Ah, here it is. I think it was within an hour after the Crusaders posted that clip of Newell squatting 270kg once, the Hurricanes posted this clip of R-S squatting 260kg three times.

    I'm quite sure I've seen a clip with him squatting 320kg once.

    Anyway, I like the idea of R-S at LH and Newell at TH. Would give some strength to the frontrow.

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    Rameka Poihipi Also playing in ChCh club tomorrow turning out for his Lincoln University team.

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    @chris Interesting to see Willi Heinz back playing for Linwood with TTT also there on the bench. Is Heinz coming back to play NPC?

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    @african-monkey said in Crusaders 2022:

    @chris Interesting to see Willi Heinz back playing for Linwood with TTT also there on the bench. Is Heinz coming back to play NPC?

    Mate I havn’t heard anything about Heinz as yet.
    It wouldn’t surprise me if he does.

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    @duluth i know Pouri did 300kg at the Blues taining base about 3 seasons ago after returning with the NZ Māori team from Fiji
    He was baited by Akira Ioane about Ofa Tungafasi’s record which was around 265kgs at the time.
    Throwing tin around runs in the Rakete Whānau ,his father Pouri senior was a former NZ heavy weight powerlifting champion.
    Must admit i do like the look of Fletcher Newall,looks one for the future.

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    @stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:

    @duluth R-S is squatting more now. I've seen the stats, but not sure I'll be able to find them.

    How are everyone’s weighted chin ups looking ? Those are great for the old UBS.

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    Squatting hundreds of kilos does not make you a good scrummager. PRS was constantly on the backfoot against Ta'avao who isn't renowned for being a monster in the scrums. But he is still young and could (should ?) improve. However, Fletcher Newell is strong at both. He will be an All Black, that's for sure. Despite his inexperience, I would like to see him selected into the AB squad very soon (EOYT ?).

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    @cgrant said in Crusaders 2022:

    Squatting hundreds of kilos does not make you a good scrummager. PRS was constantly on the backfoot against Ta'avao who isn't renowned for being a monster in the scrums. But he is still young and could (should ?) improve. However, Fletcher Newell is strong at both. He will be an All Black, that's for sure. Despite his inexperience, I would like to see him selected into the AB squad very soon (EOYT ?).

    At least as an apprentice if nothing else - I think he’ll be in the full squad though.

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    I dont think it helps the Hurricanes front rowers that their middle row in Scrafton ,Blackwell and Delany are small for this level of rugby and for all his athletic ability Asafo Amua in my opinion has never impressed me as a scrummager ..its was even more profound when he came off the bench for the All Blacks last year ..throw in a lightweight 7 in Du Plessis Kirifi and another 7 at 8 in the form of Ardie Savea in the boot and you really do realise its a pretty light pack in the greater scheme of things .
    Its a real shame they have not given Devon Flanders more game time in the 6 jersey,but they seem to have an going love affair with Reed Prinslip .

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    Shalfoon or Gardiner are likely be to lock cover next week right? shame Will Tucker is in the states? he may have been a chance to join his Otago brethren Jackson and Bower in the crusaders

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    Did Goodhue play club rugby again on the weekend?

    Think this upcoming weekend was the original target for his return?

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    @taniwharugby said in Crusaders 2022:

    Did Goodhue play club rugby again on the weekend?

    Think this upcoming weekend was the original target for his return?

    No club Rugby in Chch over Easter.
    Goodhue,Sione Havili Talitui and Whitelock all available this week.

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    This just my two-cents but Crusaders need to look outward for players, their recruiting has been far to insular post-2019. Simply relying on the academy to bring through the right types of players isn't exactly sustainable in the long-term, as we're seeing currently - and has been noticeable over the last 3 seasons (2020, 2021, 2022).

    It seems that the Crusaders are desperately missing an explosive line-bending loose forward and some larger & more physical midfielders. Bryce Heem from the Blues for example is 103kg & a solid physical presence among the inside backs - he's probably their 3rd choice 12, yet he contributes far more upside on both attack & defence than the flaccid, paper towel David Havili does playing in the midfield. Christie, Blackadder, Grace etc.. are all quite passive on attack. Require an explosive Pacifica/Maori player in that loose forward mix (the other franchises have an abundance of them - MMT, Frizzell, Savea, B Iose, TK Howden, PGS, Finau, Vaa'i, A Ioane, Sotutu, Papali'i etc..) too many very similar players, a guy such as Taufua for example, offered them a point of difference at No 8.

    In my opinion, Razor needs to recruit some players in the forwards and midfield that offer a point of difference to the others. More power and explosiveness at hooker, prop & in the midfield backs. McDonald and the Blues have recruited from far and wide (many of them being experienced campaigners), so couldn't Razor do the same & look for seasoned players elsewhere instead of just trusting their academy & bringing through the same types of players, many of them being extraordinarily green unproven rookies who've done nothing of note in the NPC.

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    @kiwi_expat said in Crusaders 2022:

    This just my two-cents but Crusaders need to look outward for players, their recruiting has been far to insular post-2019.

    It seems that the Crusaders are desperately missing an explosive line-bending loose forward and some larger & more physical midfielders. Bryce Heem from the Blues for example is 103kg & a solid physical presence among the inside backs - he's probably their 3rd choice 12, yet he contributes far more upside on both attack & defence than the flaccid, paper towel David Havili does playing in the midfield. Christie, Blackadder, Grace etc.. are all a bit passive on attack. Require an explosive Pacifica/Maori player in that loose forward mix (the other franchises have an abundance of them - MMT, Frizzell, Savea, B Iose, TK Howden, PGS, Finau, Vaa'i, A Ioane, Sotutu, Papali'i etc..) too many very similar players, a guy such as Taufua for example, offered them a point of difference at No 8.

    In my opinion, Razor needs to recruit some players in the forwards and midfield that offer a point of difference to the others. More power at hooker, prop & the midfield. McDonald and the Blues have recruited from far and wide (many of them being experienced campaigners), so couldn't Razor do the same & look for seasoned players elsewhere of just trusting their academy & bringing through the same typIes of players, many of them incredibly green unproven rookies who've done nothing of note in the NPC.

    Razor will continue to use the Crusader academies to bring young players through.
    There are a few decent ball running LF'S coming through in George Methvan,Netani Baleisomosomo and Torian Barnes.

    I cant see where we need power in the props Newell and Williams bring that,Jager is ok at SR level,Moody is still playing well.

    Agree about the MF it has frustrated the shit out of me that we have selected McLeod and Punivai the last 2 years.
    We look better with LF in the MF.

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    @kiwi_expat yeah c'mon Razor give Christian Lio-Willie & Charles Alaimalo a look! wish McLeod & punivai well in their future endeavors and Poach Gideon Wrampling from the chiefs & Levi Aumua from Pasifika

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    @FakatavaFuture said in Crusaders 2022:

    @kiwi_expat yeah c'mon Razor give Christian Lio-Willie & Charles Alaimalo a look! wish McLeod & punivai well in their future endeavors and Poach Gideon Wrampling from the chiefs & Levi Aumua from Pasifika

    Wrampling would be a great pick up. Crusaders should never have let Poihipi go either, I can't believe they picked a dud in McLeod over him.

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    @kiwi_expat McLeod is this decades Adam Whitelock just without all the game time

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    @FakatavaFuture Good comparison.

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