Chiefs vs Crusaders
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Interesting game this, but it's a shame both teams have been disrupted by Covid. This game had the potential to show us whether there has been a shift in the balance of power away from the Saders (which I suspect there has been) but there will be a question mark because of Covid.
I am picking the Chiefs for the win.
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@crazy-horse said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
Interesting game this, but it's a shame both teams have been disrupted by Covid. This game had the potential to show us whether there has been a shift in the balance of power away from the Saders (which I suspect there has been) but there will be a question mark because of Covid.
I am picking the Chiefs for the win.
As said earlier I reckon this game will be great to watch almost because of the changes. No real weakpoints from fill in players or shuffles so it puts a lot of attention on to being a battle of the coaches and leaders. Who can gel a slightly makeshift side the best. Who can come up with the best Plan B. That sort of stuff.
McMillan is the up and comer in the coaching ranks and looks to have a bit of FAB coach about him. Razor, of course, has already earned that moniker through results.
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@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@crazy-horse said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
Interesting game this, but it's a shame both teams have been disrupted by Covid. This game had the potential to show us whether there has been a shift in the balance of power away from the Saders (which I suspect there has been) but there will be a question mark because of Covid.
I am picking the Chiefs for the win.
As said earlier I reckon this game will be great to watch almost because of the changes. No real weakpoints from fill in players or shuffles so it puts a lot of attention on to being a battle of the coaches and leaders. Who can gel a slightly makeshift side the best. Who can come up with the best Plan B. That sort of stuff.
McMillan is the up and comer in the coaching ranks and looks to have a bit of FAB coach about him. Razor, of course, has already earned that moniker through results.
Should be a close one anyway.We also don't know about the energy levels of the players who are fronting up. If some of them have had Covid they could struggle.
Do we know who in the squads had Covid verses those who were/are close contacts?
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@shark don't get sucked in dude
this is "narrative". His mancrush Scotty R is the bestest coach ever who wins every year with shit players because he is just so innovative and systemy and culturish. Thus you get posts like that. Over. And Over. Again.
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@mariner4life said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@shark don't get sucked in dude
this is "narrative". His mancrush Scotty R is the bestest coach ever who wins every year with shit players because he is just so innovative and systemy and culturish. Thus you get posts like that. Over. And Over. Again.
my bad. Is he on the wind-up or genuinely batshit fucking nuts?
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@shark said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@mariner4life said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@shark don't get sucked in dude
this is "narrative". His mancrush Scotty R is the bestest coach ever who wins every year with shit players because he is just so innovative and systemy and culturish. Thus you get posts like that. Over. And Over. Again.
my bad. Is he on the wind-up or genuinely batshit fucking nuts?
tough to say, the lines get very blurred
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@shark said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@mariner4life said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@shark don't get sucked in dude
this is "narrative". His mancrush Scotty R is the bestest coach ever who wins every year with shit players because he is just so innovative and systemy and culturish. Thus you get posts like that. Over. And Over. Again.
my bad. Is he on the wind-up or genuinely batshit fucking nuts?
If we get pumped this weekend, I would have to assume the latter.
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@mariner4life said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@shark said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@mariner4life said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@shark don't get sucked in dude
this is "narrative". His mancrush Scotty R is the bestest coach ever who wins every year with shit players because he is just so innovative and systemy and culturish. Thus you get posts like that. Over. And Over. Again.
my bad. Is he on the wind-up or genuinely batshit fucking nuts?
tough to say, the lines get very blurred
Yep suspect he posts on anther forum under a different nic, a few wonder if some kids have got his log in details because of the content of some of his posts.
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I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:
As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.
Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.
Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.
My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.
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@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:
As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.
Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.
Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.
My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.
Your opinion is shot when you have Slater better than anyone.
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@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:
As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.
Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.
Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.
My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.
Your opinion is shot when you have Slater better than anyone.
Did you watch their contributions for Taranaki and Canterbury across the past few NPC seasons? Ask Neil Barnes about Slater's influence, meanwhile Klein was & forever has been anonymous for Canterbury since he started.
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@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:
As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.
Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.
Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.
My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.
Your opinion is shot when you have Slater better than anyone.
Did you watch their contributions for Taranaki and Canterbury across the past few NPC seasons? Ask Neil Barnes about Slater's influence, meanwhile Klein was & forever has been anonymous for Canterbury since he started.
I'd rather anonymous than in the highlights for overthrown and lost lineouts.
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it's testament to just how shit the Chiefs really are that, with an overwhelmingly better squad they needed to score in injury time to beat that Crusaders rubbish.
Obviously shit systems
Also, this is my favourite part
George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.
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@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:
As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.
Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.
Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.
My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.
Your opinion is shot when you have Slater better than anyone.
Did you watch their contributions for Taranaki and Canterbury across the past few NPC seasons? Ask Neil Barnes about Slater's influence, meanwhile Klein was & forever has been anonymous for Canterbury since he started.
I'm going to say that Klein might have played 20 games, and many off the bench. Hardly a body of work worthy of that sort of insightful comment.
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@shark said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:
As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.
Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.
Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.
My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.
Your opinion is shot when you have Slater better than anyone.
Did you watch their contributions for Taranaki and Canterbury across the past few NPC seasons? Ask Neil Barnes about Slater's influence, meanwhile Klein was & forever has been anonymous for Canterbury since he started.
I'm going to say that Klein might have played 20 games, and many off the bench. Hardly a body of work worthy of that sort of insightful comment.
Klein
Lucky to have played 20 when McAlister was fit.
I would say mostly cameos 10 or 15 min off the bench in his first year which I think was the 2019 season When he was just 20. -
@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:
As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.
Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.
Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.
My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.
Your opinion is shot when you have Slater better than anyone.
Have to say Crucial, I reckon Slater is a better hooker than you giving him credit for, well I personally reckon he not bad. He's not a test player or anything, but he not bad.
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@mariner4life said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
it's testament to just how shit the Chiefs really are that, with an overwhelmingly better squad they needed to score in injury time to beat that Crusaders rubbish.
Obviously shit systems
Also, this is my favourite part
George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.
My favourite is Roe > Drummond, only because Drummond didn't play two weeks ago.
You look at the bench named for this week and you'd have to say that the Saders will finish far far stronger than last time.
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@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
Roe > Drummond
Razor seems to rate Drummond quite highly as a bench 9.
From 2020
āI reckon he is the best finisher in world rugby off the bench, as a halfback,āā Robertson said after the match. -
@dan54 said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:
As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.
Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.
Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.
My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.
Your opinion is shot when you have Slater better than anyone.
Have to say Crucial, I reckon Slater is a better hooker than you giving him credit for, well I personally reckon he not bad. He's not a test player or anything, but he not bad.
Yeah, but I fought hard for underdog status earlier in the thread and Iām not going to give it up easily
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@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@dan54 said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:
I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:
As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.
Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.
Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.
My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.
Your opinion is shot when you have Slater better than anyone.
Have to say Crucial, I reckon Slater is a better hooker than you giving him credit for, well I personally reckon he not bad. He's not a test player or anything, but he not bad.
Yeah, but I fought hard for underdog status earlier in the thread and Iām not going to give it up easily
Lol feeding the old mocker gods mate??
