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Only one 'genuine' Pakistani wicket was taken on the fourth day - Azhar Ali was way too slow to review an LBW that he'd gloved. Could be an interesting night tonight. Might depend on how tired Shafique and Azam are, plus the use of the second new ball...
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@kiwipie said in Other Cricket:
315 in 90 overs is a fair bit faster than they have scored to date and will require them to go searching for runs - best plan is to bat as long as possible without losing wickets and see how they look with 3 hours to go.
That’s what John Bracewell suggested for the Black Caps against South Africa in radio commentary.
From memory it didn’t work but it’s a great idea.
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@mn5 said in Other Cricket:
@nta said in Other Cricket:
@mn5 no idea about swepson.
As for batting again: rest the bowlers, have a slog, win the match. Nobody enforces follow on any more.
I thought you knew cricket stuff?
Just cos I talk a lot about something doesn’t mean I know it.
This is The Fern, after all.
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@nta said in Other Cricket:
@mn5 said in Other Cricket:
@nta said in Other Cricket:
@mn5 no idea about swepson.
As for batting again: rest the bowlers, have a slog, win the match. Nobody enforces follow on any more.
I thought you knew cricket stuff?
Just cos I talk a lot about something doesn’t mean I know it.
This is The Fern, after all.
I admit it at least, others don’t.
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@chris-b Alam very nearly thwarted our march to the World Test Championship Final on the final day at the Bay Oval Boxing Day Test. Alam almost went 11 years between Test matches! https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/40250.html?class=1;template=results;type=allround;view=match
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@chris-b said in Other Cricket:
How is it I've never come across Fawad Alam?
According to his Cricinfo resume he has the highest ever First class batting average for a Pakistani.
He can write his own technical textbook - maybe get McMillan and Chanderpaul as co-authors.
Graeme Hick and Mark Ramprakash had brilliant first class averages too
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@chris-b A bizarre career. I remember he played a test down here in 2009 in Dunedin (Shane Bond's last test) after scoring a big century against Sri Lanka, got dropped for over 10 years and has come back and made every post a winner.
It's like the Pakistan version of Chris Rogers.
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@african-monkey Looking at his technique, I'm not surprised.
How the hell he manages to hit the ball - it's extraordinary!
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@african-monkey said in Other Cricket:
> @chris-b A bizarre career. I remember he played a test down here in 2009 in Dunedin (Shane Bond's last test) after scoring a big century against Sri Lanka, got dropped for over 10 years and has come back and made every post a winner.It's like the Pakistan version of Chris Rogers.
Massive asterix on that game in hindsight.
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@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
with the benefit of a bit of hindsight, absolutely the right call to bat again. Best chance of winning it without risking losing it.
Your going to have to explain this one to me ....
Still looking like a terrible call to me. Draw the most likely winner at the moment. We'll never know if the follow on would have changed that or not, but we can be sure it wouldn't have increased Australias chances of losing (with the benefit of hindsight too).
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@majorrage said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
with the benefit of a bit of hindsight, absolutely the right call to bat again. Best chance of winning it without risking losing it.
Your going to have to explain this one to me ....
Still looking like a terrible call to me. Draw the most likely winner at the moment. We'll never know if the follow on would have changed that or not, but we can be sure it wouldn't have increased Australias chances of losing (with the benefit of hindsight too).
I'm totally baffled why with 12 overs left and 4 wickets remaining they took the third new ball and kept Lyon and Swepson (with figures of close to 0/150) on. Cummins and Starc bowled less than 13 overs per day over Days 3, 4 and 5. That is low for a standard test , let a lone a test where you took a luxury break to put your feet up in the middle of it. Strange captaincy all around and I'm sure the coach will really be laying down the law to the players.
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@majorrage said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
with the benefit of a bit of hindsight, absolutely the right call to bat again. Best chance of winning it without risking losing it.
Your going to have to explain this one to me ....
Still looking like a terrible call to me. Draw the most likely winner at the moment. We'll never know if the follow on would have changed that or not, but we can be sure it wouldn't have increased Australias chances of losing (with the benefit of hindsight too).
it's made to look terrible because Aus then took 7 wickets in 171 overs.
My thinking was, the extra 100 took any thoughts of a win out of Pakistan's head, and batting to avoid defeat can be mentally tough. And i also expected the pitch to break up.
It didn't, it was a road. And Cummins' decision ended up mattering little.
Absolutely shithouse series, i thought we were done with this crap. 2,431 runs, 43 wickets, a total run rate of less than 3.