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  • RapidoR Offline
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    So, last year, when Henry replaced Wagner as 4th seamer at Hgley. I thought it was a ridiculous selection. Should have chosen Ajaz, even though Hagley ....
    (although, Henry actually bowled really well in that match as 4th seamer but was unlucky)

    This year, as a Boult replacement,as per earlier inn the thread ..... I was all good with it. So, spotters badge for me ...

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    We've been quite blessed with our 3rd and 4th seamers this last era. Well, veeeeeeery blessed with Wagner and Jamieson.

    But credit goes to de Grandhomme and even Doug Bracewell before him. It is not an easy job, should be considered a specialist position.

    Look at these specialist opening bowlers' records in that position (even if small sample sizes):
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    @chris said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    Henry also was hitting around 140 ks quite a bit.
    Extra pace was good he hit the pitch nice and hard instead of kissing the pitch,It makes a big difference on the bounces pitches.
    Rabada still a big threat he is World class.Although Jansen is a threat with his bounce,Olivier will be the problem consistent line and length hitting that 6 to 8 m length and nipping it away,He is always a threat.
    We might have to graft out the first session.

    Really rate Olivier, has a good fluent action too.

    Vital that we can build some really good partnerships.

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    @nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    @chris said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    Henry also was hitting around 140 ks quite a bit.
    Extra pace was good he hit the pitch nice and hard instead of kissing the pitch,It makes a big difference on the bounces pitches.
    Rabada still a big threat he is World class.Although Jansen is a threat with his bounce,Olivier will be the problem consistent line and length hitting that 6 to 8 m length and nipping it away,He is always a threat.
    We might have to graft out the first session.

    Really rate Olivier, has a good fluent action too.

    Vital that we can build some really good partnerships.

    2 good partnerships and we are in a good position,
    We need a 200 plus lead then SA are fighting to stay in the game.
    A lot of time left in this test.We get rolled with a 50 or 60 run lead and we have wasted a brilliant first day.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    We've been quite blessed with our 3rd and 4th seamers this last era. Well, veeeeeeery blessed with Wagner and Jamieson.

    But credit goes do de Grandhomme and even Doug Bracewell before him. It is not an easy job, should be considered a specialist position.

    Look at these specialist opening bowlers' records in that position (even if small sample sizes):
    622b7ba6-0e0f-4fef-ab1b-d97e448df7b1-image.png

    Hasn’t Wagner always been in that position. The stats nerd in me notes his average is slightly higher than his overall career figure ?

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    Wagner on fire. Three fours in a row !

    It must be fun being a night watchman provided you survive overnight. If he scores great, if he doesn’t no great loss.

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    Wags doing two things

    Scoring a few bonus runs to push the game along
    Settling the nerves of the 4 run scorers to come, who would have been a little edgy about things this morning, but have probably just settled down a little

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    So we've solved the issue of who to bat #5 with Nicholls shifting up after Taylor's retirement...

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    #214

    10 overs this morning, 59 runs

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  • MN5M Offline
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    Fuck, misses a second test 50.

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    #216

    Great night watchman score there from Wags..I dont want to start thinking about 300 + yet, as that collapse always seems just around the corner when you least expect it, but a good partnership here would go a long way to making that happen

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    Perfect, now Wags can start channelling that frustration into his bowling in the second innings.

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    @cyclops said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    Perfect, now Wags can start channelling that frustration into his bowling in the second innings.

    Exactly. If he starts believing he’s a decent batsman it will detract from his bowling

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    Mitchell gone immediately after lunch. He has no business batting in the top 6 at test level.

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    Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

    Great record at home, not so flash away.

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    @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

    Great record at home, not so flash away.

    To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

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    @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

    Great record at home, not so flash away.

    To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

    at least he has turned up against a decent bowling attack as well, Im sure I've given him sh*t many times, but delivering against SA is a good result. Now if he could do that in SA, then that would be even better!

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    @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

    Great record at home, not so flash away.

    To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

    by coming home? I know a beligerent left handed opener who does something very similar

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    @bayimports said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

    Great record at home, not so flash away.

    To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

    at least he has turned up against a decent bowling attack as well, Im sure I've given him sh*t many times, but delivering against SA is a good result. Now if he could do that in SA, then that would be even better!

    Steady on. Everyone knows he only performs at home.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

    Great record at home, not so flash away.

    To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

    by coming home? I know a beligerent left handed opener who does something very similar

    Yep, Hayden and Gayle were magnificent players alright.

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