Coronavirus - New Zealand
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Everybody who is scared of covid has now been vaccinated. Time to move on.
There is no need for a vaccinated person to fear an unvaccinated person.
It's this illogical fallacy where the whole issue falls over.Damage and death from a scarcity of hospital care is not the doing of the unvaxxed but solely due to government policies. True for all countries worldwide.
Lockdown decisions were SOLELY due to modelling information. If you don't agree or trust the modellers and their models then you, by definition, can't agree with lockdowns ( if you apply logic).
If lockdowns work, then Sweden, Texas, Florida and Africa would have experienced hundreds and thousands of covid deaths each. Sweden being a perfect comparison. No masks, no lockdowns in 2020 MUST have resulted in 100 fold increases in deaths compared to lockdown countries. It didn't, ( not even close in magnitude) therefore the hypothesis that lockdowns will save tens or hundreds of thousands is false. No need to look any further, they're using hypotheticals as proof.
Covid and vaccine compliance looks exactly the same as religious fervour. "Saving people from themselves"
My original thread topic that this thing is as dodgy as all hell will act as a time capsule. It stunk from the origin and has been rotting ever since.
You have all been fooled by a small collection of people now swimming in the greatest concentration of money, wealth and power that human civilisation has ever seen. WEF is a good starting point.
17 years of "absolute crap from stuff" threads and now all of a sudden their word is gospel.
The anger you're feeling reading this is testimony to the great covid swindle we've just lived through.
You know it's not right. Deep down you know, but comfort lies in conformity. They "couldn't be that dishonest".
Truth don't live on TV screens or in cabinet meetings - only manipulation.
You threaten a person's job, it's amazing what they'll do.
No need to reply, I won't see it.
I truly wish you all well in your lives but my heart goes out to Snowy.
So long, and thanks for all the fish. I'll miss the memesπ
Ps. If I'm wrong, absolutely no harm has been done by this post. So why you feeling aggrieved or offended? Why has your heart rate just jumped?π
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@siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
There is no need for a vaccinated person to fear an unvaccinated person.
I dont fear unvaccinated people, the guy that sits next to me at work is unvaccinated, I do not fear him, in fact, I prefer when he is at work as opposed to working from home.
I think you have maybe missed the point of @mikedogz post...Tai Tokerau Border Control fear covid, full stop, and want to protect thier higher than average unvaccinated rate in the North (many of whom, I expect give zero fucks) so if they want to stop vaccinated/unvaccinated travelling north to protect these people, why not stop these same people they are apparently aiming to protect from heading south?
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@siam originally lockdowns were to flatten the curve, they weren't expected to eliminate Covid-19 or even lead to fewer cases, just control how many cases and hospitalisations we had at the same time. It just happened to eliminate Covid-19 in NZ, and the moat and quarantine did the rest to keep it out.
Even then, the government had no long term plans of permanent elimination - the reconnecting plan was released last August and provided high level milestones to open back up. Lockdowns, border restrictions and other things like masks and number restrictions are about managing case numbers and hospitalisations, not eliminating it now.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
There is no need for a vaccinated person to fear an unvaccinated person.
I dont fear unvaccinated people, the guy that sits next to me at work is unvaccinated, I do not fear him, in fact, I prefer when he is at work as opposed to working from home.
I think you have maybe missed the point of @mikedogz post...Tai Tokerau Border Control fear covid, full stop, and want to protect thier higher than average unvaccinated rate in the North (many of whom, I expect give zero fucks) so if they want to stop vaccinated/unvaccinated travelling north to protect these people, why not stop these same people they are apparently aiming to protect from heading south?
It wasn't a serious post, half a joking post, seemed to have got some reaction I hadn't expected. They are trying to protect people who won't protect themselves.
I hoping that we can get back to some normality sometime this year. I read that Denmark has started to that after trying and failing to do so earlier.
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@siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Ps. If I'm wrong, absolutely no harm has been done by this post. So why you feeling aggrieved or offended? Why has your heart rate just jumped?π
Does anyone on here truly feel aggrieved or offended. You must have a heightened sense of importance when you post??
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@hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Ps. If I'm wrong, absolutely no harm has been done by this post. So why you feeling aggrieved or offended? Why has your heart rate just jumped?π
Does anyone on here truly feel aggrieved or offended. You must have a heightened sense of importance when you post??
I thought it was the wink emoji that always made everything alright.....
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Not written by a kiwi, but Stuff have it pretty fucking high up the first page
I wonder if there are a few differences between 1920 and 2022? I can think of a couple that might have a decent sized impact.
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can someone walk me through the iso protocols if me or one of the 3 others in my household go down with Moronic...TBH I havent really followed it on the news or read much about it, but Mrs TR was talking to her sister in the UK and 10yr nephew has it currently (also had the original strain last year when the who family went down with it) no symptoms 1st time and a scratchy throw this time.
Anywho, she was saying they just have 5 day iso and a horde of RATs to see when negative that he is allowed out again?
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
can someone walk me through the iso protocols if me or one of the 3 others in my household go down with Moronic...TBH I havent really followed it on the news or read much about it, but Mrs TR was talking to her sister in the UK and 10yr nephew has it currently (also had the original strain last year when the who family went down with it) no symptoms 1st time and a scratchy throw this time.
Anywho, she was saying they just have 5 day iso and a horde of RATs to see when negative that he is allowed out again?
It's basically one rule for the vaccinated and one for others. If you are vaccinated it's 5 days from symptoms or your first negative test - whichever is the longer.
If you are unvaccinated it's 10 days & you must use up further government resources by PCR testing, 10 days blah blah blah.
Reinfections are going nuts now. Which is when you test positive again and basically have zero symptoms. I refuse to test without symptoms, so I may have done this 20 times.