Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022
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@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
If I read it right, one adult per room = $1,610 (Charges by Room), so $32,200 even if they send a group of 20. I gather it's more room availability/ability to book.
I understood there are real responsibility issues with putting a 15/16 year old into an isolated room for 2 weeks. It isn't normal for those kids, and with no parents/responsible adults is high risk. Who is responsible if the kids mental health deteriorates? What can you reasonably do? I think those were more the issue to be fair
Ah, my bad, I was thinking mainly of the Black Caps, not the U19's. Though the cynic in me wonders if the average 18-19 year old (depending on the tournament age qualifying date) might have enjoyed a ten day Play Station stint
some will no doubt! The issue is those that don't, and how that plays out if they struggle (particuarly if they had a bad tournament/got injured/have other life issues).
But I am surprised the Black Cap's can't get slots. Maybe they need to DJ?
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One of the problems now is that MIQ is fully allocated other than emergency rooms and the rooms being paired with Australian flights to rescue stuck Kiwis, and meanwhile is filling up with Covid at a rapid pace, so configurations are changing almost on a daily basis, which hampers rooms as well.
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@nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
If I read it right, one adult per room = $1,610 (Charges by Room), so $32,200 even if they send a group of 20. I gather it's more room availability/ability to book.
I understood there are real responsibility issues with putting a 15/16 year old into an isolated room for 2 weeks. It isn't normal for those kids, and with no parents/responsible adults is high risk. Who is responsible if the kids mental health deteriorates? What can you reasonably do? I think those were more the issue to be fair
Ah, my bad, I was thinking mainly of the Black Caps, not the U19's. Though the cynic in me wonders if the average 18-19 year old (depending on the tournament age qualifying date) might have enjoyed a ten day Play Station stint
some will no doubt! The issue is those that don't, and how that plays out if they struggle (particuarly if they had a bad tournament/got injured/have other life issues).
But I am surprised the Black Cap's can't get slots. Maybe they need to DJ?
I understand the concerns, but jeez that's a lot of ifs for a group of well resourced young men partaking in a procedure done all over the world everyday.
I'd like to hear from the (army age) lads if they're are prepared to MIQ in exchange for the tournament of a lifetime - Caribbean!
Oh well, the authorities know best, bad luck kids. No chance to meet up with your mates from PNG and Uganda. Next time.
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@godder said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
One of the problems now is that MIQ is fully allocated other than emergency rooms and the rooms being paired with Australian flights to rescue stuck Kiwis, and meanwhile is filling up with Covid at a rapid pace, so configurations are changing almost on a daily basis, which hampers rooms as well.
Absolutely, but mental health was the reason for forfeiting NZ's place in the ICC U19s World Cup 2022
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@siam said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
Oh well, the authorities know best, bad luck kids. No chance to meet up with your mates from PNG and Uganda. Next time.
It's risk averse. It may not be appropriate for all, but it's ensuring that some don't get mentally scarred.
Note I'm not agreeing with it necessarily - just pointing out that I can understand the decision. If you're in charge of a young person, locking them up by themselves for 10 days is ... difficult. If something bad happens, you'd be straight in the line of fire and probably on the front page of the Herald.
question: did some Olympians say the isolation was incredibly difficult coming home after a poor event? I think I read that, but last year is very very foggy
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@nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
@siam said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
Oh well, the authorities know best, bad luck kids. No chance to meet up with your mates from PNG and Uganda. Next time.
It's risk averse. It may not be appropriate for all, but it's ensuring that some don't get mentally scarred.
Note I'm not agreeing with it necessarily - just pointing out that I can understand the decision. If you're in charge of a young person, locking them up by themselves for 10 days is ... difficult. If something bad happens, you'd be straight in the line of fire and probably on the front page of the Herald.
question: did some Olympians say the isolation was incredibly difficult coming home after a poor event? I think I read that, but last year is very very foggy
I hear you mate and it is a tricky situation. I'm in MIQ right now so I have some idea, but these guys have done a fine job of making it as comfortable as possible without compromising the "no contact" variable. 1 hour everyday (after neg test) of outdoor exercise and even gym use after 2nd test. Balconey for every room. $1200 for 7 days, 3 meals a day and all tests etc. Excellent use of Line or whatsapp to communicate with resident nurse (twice daily temp recordings) and hotel staff instantly.
Contrast with the wife's MIQ in Melbourne with fully sealed room (aircon only is horrendous) and total of 3, 15 minutes sessions outside over 14 days was simply cruel and a recipe for the issues we're discussing.
I get it but the lost opportunity to NZC and the boys due to largely logistical constraints rankles.
One thing for sure though, sharing with a teammate (like most cricket tours do) would be massively better, but I have to concede to the situation in NZ
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Back in the day we would’ve seen a rebel tour…
I’m not buying the MIQ availability (or unavailability). How long have they known about this tour, where was the forward planning/thinking? Seems a bit messy to me.
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@act-crusader said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
Back in the day we would’ve seen a rebel tour…
I’m not buying the MIQ availability (or unavailability). How long have they known about this tour, where was the forward planning/thinking? Seems a bit messy to me.
oooh, good!
they've watched the Aus bowling depth, had a quick squiz at who were sending over, and found a way out.
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