Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022
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Assuming things go ahead...Of the two names not mentioned I would hope management has at least given some consideration to mending a bridge with Colin Munro and giving him another crack. We have a white ball World Cup in Australia in 9 months and he has played more white ball cricket than anyone in Australia and is in good form in the BBL. I was calling for him to be dropped all through the 2019 WC and am not a huge fan, but I'm also not a huge fan of wasting resources.
Dane Cleaver I think is worth a punt, as keeper cover is needed for Seifert (Conway, Latham, Blundell are all in the test squad). In decent form and on a tour not captained by his cousin.
I would also send Daryl Mitchell unless Stead is absolutely wedded to the idea of him playing all three tests. I think he would get more out of this white ball series than one (possible) test match.
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@shark said in Black Caps Squad for Australia ODI Tour:
@rotated Mitchell will be in or around the test squad so forget that idea. And the only game I'd consider Munro for is the T20 at the end of the tour. He's proven over and over its his only decent format.
Agree on both points, just my selections.
Aside from Rosco I would pick the side entirely based around giving experience to players who will be part of the T20 WC in October or who are the frame for the ODI CWC next March. Picking the "best" team for these games wouldn't be a huge concern.
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Tour postponed due to MIQ uncertainty...... https://www.facebook.com/blackcapsfan/posts/10160513964797994
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Follows on ( pun!) From the Under 19s withdrawing from the current world cup also due MIQ concerns.
Except, that decision was made on November 18 2021.
Just makes you proud to be a tough, pragmatic kiwi with that "can do" attitude" we used to be famous for😁
"Some of these guys in the under-19 setups can be as young as 16,” Boock said.
"We didn’t think it was appropriate to force young people to undergo MIQ.”Players would have undergone MIQ in a room by themselves, without support from family and with only digital commination between teammates.
Players were not involved in the decision but have been briefed on it.
Wow😒
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Very disappointing.
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@frye said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
Weird excuse. NZ cricket probably just didn't want to shell out the money to MIQ all the players, coaches and support staff. Probably talking north of $100K?
If I read it right, one adult per room = $1,610 (Charges by Room), so $32,200 even if they send a group of 20. I gather it's more room availability/ability to book.
Someone mentioned that the bright side may be that we don't send a potentially second string team to Oz...
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@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
If I read it right, one adult per room = $1,610 (Charges by Room), so $32,200 even if they send a group of 20. I gather it's more room availability/ability to book.
I understood there are real responsibility issues with putting a 15/16 year old into an isolated room for 2 weeks. It isn't normal for those kids, and with no parents/responsible adults is high risk. Who is responsible if the kids mental health deteriorates? What can you reasonably do? I think those were more the issue to be fair
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@nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
If I read it right, one adult per room = $1,610 (Charges by Room), so $32,200 even if they send a group of 20. I gather it's more room availability/ability to book.
I understood there are real responsibility issues with putting a 15/16 year old into an isolated room for 2 weeks. It isn't normal for those kids, and with no parents/responsible adults is high risk. Who is responsible if the kids mental health deteriorates? What can you reasonably do? I think those were more the issue to be fair
Ah, my bad, I was thinking mainly of the Black Caps, not the U19's. Though the cynic in me wonders if the average 18-19 year old (depending on the tournament age qualifying date) might have enjoyed a ten day Play Station stint
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@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
If I read it right, one adult per room = $1,610 (Charges by Room), so $32,200 even if they send a group of 20. I gather it's more room availability/ability to book.
I understood there are real responsibility issues with putting a 15/16 year old into an isolated room for 2 weeks. It isn't normal for those kids, and with no parents/responsible adults is high risk. Who is responsible if the kids mental health deteriorates? What can you reasonably do? I think those were more the issue to be fair
Ah, my bad, I was thinking mainly of the Black Caps, not the U19's. Though the cynic in me wonders if the average 18-19 year old (depending on the tournament age qualifying date) might have enjoyed a ten day Play Station stint
some will no doubt! The issue is those that don't, and how that plays out if they struggle (particuarly if they had a bad tournament/got injured/have other life issues).
But I am surprised the Black Cap's can't get slots. Maybe they need to DJ?
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One of the problems now is that MIQ is fully allocated other than emergency rooms and the rooms being paired with Australian flights to rescue stuck Kiwis, and meanwhile is filling up with Covid at a rapid pace, so configurations are changing almost on a daily basis, which hampers rooms as well.
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@nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
If I read it right, one adult per room = $1,610 (Charges by Room), so $32,200 even if they send a group of 20. I gather it's more room availability/ability to book.
I understood there are real responsibility issues with putting a 15/16 year old into an isolated room for 2 weeks. It isn't normal for those kids, and with no parents/responsible adults is high risk. Who is responsible if the kids mental health deteriorates? What can you reasonably do? I think those were more the issue to be fair
Ah, my bad, I was thinking mainly of the Black Caps, not the U19's. Though the cynic in me wonders if the average 18-19 year old (depending on the tournament age qualifying date) might have enjoyed a ten day Play Station stint
some will no doubt! The issue is those that don't, and how that plays out if they struggle (particuarly if they had a bad tournament/got injured/have other life issues).
But I am surprised the Black Cap's can't get slots. Maybe they need to DJ?
I understand the concerns, but jeez that's a lot of ifs for a group of well resourced young men partaking in a procedure done all over the world everyday.
I'd like to hear from the (army age) lads if they're are prepared to MIQ in exchange for the tournament of a lifetime - Caribbean!
Oh well, the authorities know best, bad luck kids. No chance to meet up with your mates from PNG and Uganda. Next time.
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@godder said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:
One of the problems now is that MIQ is fully allocated other than emergency rooms and the rooms being paired with Australian flights to rescue stuck Kiwis, and meanwhile is filling up with Covid at a rapid pace, so configurations are changing almost on a daily basis, which hampers rooms as well.
Absolutely, but mental health was the reason for forfeiting NZ's place in the ICC U19s World Cup 2022
