Ashes 2021-22
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@barbarian said in Ashes 2021-22:
It seems like we've had way more 5th day showdowns in the last 2-3 years than we've had previously. Teams hanging on for the draw, falling just short or chasing down big 4th innings totals.
We're not great at putting teams away, but I also wonder if the pitches are better/more durable than they have been in the past. Pitches don't break down like they used to. No balls springing up off a length or staying at ankle height.
Its probably more that the current side scores at 3.25-3.5 an over rather than 3.75-4.0 an over at home that the Waugh/Ponting era teams were able to. That difference creates at least an extra session for the bowlers to do their work and makes four sessions to save a test five.
Many reasons for that, mainly a weaker batting line up and bowling attacks across the world getting much deeper. No matter how badly this tour is going for England it is hard to see them fielding an uncompetitive bowling line up even if several injuries strike and with Archer already on the sidelines.
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@scribe said in Ashes 2021-22:
@mariner4life I suppose there is previous form with names like that. Didn’t ex-Wallaby Mark Chisholm get given the nickname ‘Covered in’ by some teammates?
Nicknames like that are media creations 95% of the time. Some bloke probably said it once and it took off from there. Aussie nicknames are way less witty than that. His nickname was always 'Chis' as far as I know.
Imagine calling a bloke 'covered in'. It's got one more syllable than his actual name.
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@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
@kiwimurph said in Ashes 2021-22:
@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
I don't know how it can accurately predict the behaviour of the ball after pitching.
It can't. Basically it's an 'unbiased' 3rd party system that is agreed to with the idea that, like the whole concept of DRS, it's there to help overturn the clangers.
Which is why I still don't think that the balance is right (much like the rugby TMO).
Clangers are something that was missed but obvious. Ball hitting bat on LBWs. Ball pitching outside leg. Ball missing by miles, 'catches' off the pad.
Instead we get referrals and dismissals when even the whole fielding team debate whether to refer while assessing the chance of ball tracking going in their favour.Reduce the call time to 5 seconds.
Don't think the balance is as bad as you think, but don't fundamentally disagree. Clear and obvious should be the standard to overturn - but man, some of the tight tight LBW, and some of the whiper thin edges are tough to be hung or reprieved on.
I agree with you on reducing the time. Make it really clear that it should be for howlers, and let the umpires get on with the umpiring.
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@mariner4life what’s Michelle used for? And what’s so bad about Cummins Cider….
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@yeahtheboys said in Ashes 2021-22:
@mariner4life what’s Michelle used for? And what’s so bad about Cummins Cider….
A five wicket bag aka a 5-fer sounds like Pfeiffer, hence Michelle.
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@yeahtheboys said in Ashes 2021-22:
@mariner4life what’s Michelle used for? And what’s so bad about Cummins Cider….
I had to look it up too.
Wikipedia says:
"Australian cricketers use the rhyming slang "getting a Michelle" when they take five wickets in an innings. This means they have taken "Five for" which has become a "Pfeiffer" and hence a "Michelle", in reference to Michelle Pfeiffer."
"Cummins Cider" is a mystery to me.
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@mick-gold-coast-qld said in Ashes 2021-22:
@yeahtheboys said in Ashes 2021-22:
@mariner4life what’s Michelle used for? And what’s so bad about Cummins Cider….
I had to look it up too.
Wikipedia says:
"Australian cricketers use the rhyming slang "getting a Michelle" when they take five wickets in an innings. This means they have taken "Five for" which has become a "Pfeiffer" and hence a "Michelle", in reference to Michelle Pfeiffer."
"Cummins Cider" is a mystery to me.
So naive……or taking the piss.
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@mick-gold-coast-qld When said aloud it sounds like 'cum inside her', which is a slang reference to a man ejaculating his semen while his penis is inserted into his partner's vagina or anus.
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@barbarian said in Ashes 2021-22:
@mick-gold-coast-qld When said aloud it sounds like 'cum inside her', which is a slang reference to a man ejaculating his semen while his penis is inserted into his partner's vagina or anus.
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@barbarian said in Ashes 2021-22:
@mick-gold-coast-qld When said aloud it sounds like 'cum inside her', which is a slang reference to a man ejaculating his semen while his penis is inserted into his partner's vagina or anus.
It’s a sad day for the fern that this post needed to be made
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I can't remember whose book it was in - maybe Steve Waugh's - but, apparently when they were trying to find a nickname for him someone suggested "Drobe".
Alan Border was apparently fielding in the slips and mystified, "Drobe Waugh? Drobe Waugh? I don't get it?!
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@barbarian said in Ashes 2021-22:
@mick-gold-coast-qld When said aloud it sounds like 'cum inside her', which is a slang reference to a man ejaculating his semen while his penis is inserted into his partner's vagina or anus.
Uuurrrggghhh! I should have shouldered arms, ... let it go! Or asked my son when we speak later - he would say "No Dad, you don't need to know." 🙄
Thank you for your direct response, I do appreciate it.
I assumed it had something to do with Pat Cummins.
The vernacular changes, you need to be out there as part of the chatter in slips to keep up with it. I don't expect to know today's cleverest lines. 😎
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look, it's australia, his real nickname will be either Patto or Cummo
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@chris-b said in Ashes 2021-22:
I can't remember whose book it was in - maybe Steve Waugh's - but, apparently when they were trying to find a nickname for him someone suggested "Drobe".
Alan Border was apparently fielding in the slips and mystified, "Drobe Waugh? Drobe Waugh? I don't get it?!
Mark's alleged nickname of Afghan as the forgotten Waugh always amused me.
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@mariner4life said in Ashes 2021-22:
look, it's australia, his real nickname will be either Patto or Cummo
We can’t talk, we have Canterbury All Blacks like Reado, Franksy and Marshy. Still, that region isn’t noted for subtlety or originality I guess.
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@godder said in Ashes 2021-22:
@chris-b said in Ashes 2021-22:
I can't remember whose book it was in - maybe Steve Waugh's - but, apparently when they were trying to find a nickname for him someone suggested "Drobe".
Alan Border was apparently fielding in the slips and mystified, "Drobe Waugh? Drobe Waugh? I don't get it?!
Mark's alleged nickname of Afghan as the forgotten Waugh always amused me.
His best was “Audi” after he got four ducks in a row vs Sri Lanka. He was lucky he went on to a very good career after that debacle.
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Australia aim to clinch the Ashes with England needing inspiration
AUS v ENG 2021/22 Australia vs England Match Preview: The series is still alive, but only just, with England making four changes as they look to hit back
Australia have juggled their fast-bowling pack again. Cummins' is back after his enforced absence in place of Michael Neser while Scott Boland will make his debut in place of Jhye Richardson who has a leg injury. Josh Hazlewood has not recovered from his side strain.1 David Warner, 2 Marcus Harris, 3 Marnus Labuschagne, 4 Steven Smith, 5 Travis Head, 6 Cameron Green, 7 Alex Carey (wk), 8 Pat Cummins (capt), 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Scott Boland, 11 Nathan Lyon
As expected, England have made a number of changes. Rory Burns, Ollie Pope, Chris Woakes and Stuart Broad have all been left out in favour of Crawley, Jonny Bairstow, Mark Wood and Jack Leach. It means that England have what looks a more balanced attack with the extra pace of Wood and left-arm spin of Leach, although he is sure to be targeted by the Australia batters as he was in Brisbane.1 Haseeb Hameed, 2 Zak Crawley, 3 Dawid Malan, 4 Joe Root (capt), 5 Ben Stokes, 6 Jonny Bairstow, 7 Jos Buttler (wk), 8 Ollie Robinson, 9 Mark Wood, 10 Jack Leach, 11 James Anderson
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@duluth said in Ashes 2021-22:
Australia aim to clinch the Ashes with England needing inspiration
AUS v ENG 2021/22 Australia vs England Match Preview: The series is still alive, but only just, with England making four changes as they look to hit back
Australia have juggled their fast-bowling pack again. Cummins' is back after his enforced absence in place of Michael Neser while Scott Boland will make his debut in place of Jhye Richardson who has a leg injury. Josh Hazlewood has not recovered from his side strain.1 David Warner, 2 Marcus Harris, 3 Marnus Labuschagne, 4 Steven Smith, 5 Travis Head, 6 Cameron Green, 7 Alex Carey (wk), 8 Pat Cummins (capt), 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Scott Boland, 11 Nathan Lyon
As expected, England have made a number of changes. Rory Burns, Ollie Pope, Chris Woakes and Stuart Broad have all been left out in favour of Crawley, Jonny Bairstow, Mark Wood and Jack Leach. It means that England have what looks a more balanced attack with the extra pace of Wood and left-arm spin of Leach, although he is sure to be targeted by the Australia batters as he was in Brisbane.1 Haseeb Hameed, 2 Zak Crawley, 3 Dawid Malan, 4 Joe Root (capt), 5 Ben Stokes, 6 Jonny Bairstow, 7 Jos Buttler (wk), 8 Ollie Robinson, 9 Mark Wood, 10 Jack Leach, 11 James Anderson
I reckon Hameed is lucky to survive. Looked completely out of his depth in the six balls he faced in his last innings but then again they old ‘deck chairs on the titanic’ adage comes to mind to be honest. Burns showed more than he did but got dropped.
Perhaps the memory of Ray Illingworth will spur them on ?
How good is a Boxing Day test now all the Xmas shit is done and dusted ? I’m having a booze free day though, so the kombucha will have to do instead.
