Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan an abundance of caution I guess. Hard to put the genie back in the bottle if it goes pear-shaped, and not wanting to yo-yo either.
Do you know if these tests will be sufficient to be let out the Auckland prison over Xmas?
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@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Do you know if these tests will be sufficient to be let out the Auckland prison over Xmas?
Nasopharyngeal PCR tests will continue to be used as the primary diagnostic test, but this will be supplemented by saliva-based PCR testing, rapid antigen testing and rapid PCR tests.
That's not concrete but obviously shows the preference is still there for the standard nasal swab. The references to surveillance testing in the press release suggest rapid antigen testing might be aimed at that more than statutory obligations but I guess all will be made clear in the new Covid framework order once published. The legislation doesn't prevent it though, so it's an option at least. The current level order doesn't even allow for PCR saliva testing for domestic travel, so that strikes me as more likely than going straight to antigen testing.
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan an abundance of caution I guess. Hard to put the genie back in the bottle if it goes pear-shaped, and not wanting to yo-yo either.
Is yo yoing still going to be a thing with a population vaxxed close to 90%?
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan an abundance of caution I guess. Hard to put the genie back in the bottle if it goes pear-shaped, and not wanting to yo-yo either.
Is yo yoing still going to be a thing with a population vaxxed close to 90%?
Seems to be elsewhere in the world even with higher rates. It's also only 76% of the whole population, still need the 5-11s on board. If we can get to actual 85% or even 90%, that would be much closer to delta burning itself out.
I think there's also no useful way to predict volumes once MIQ isn't required, so that's probably weighing on the mind a bit. Parts of Australia and elsewhere in the world are open when people can look at international travel again, so just going for a holiday isn't out of the question, not to mention business trips etc.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
my work was to have our Xmas party in Kerikeri, so 20+ staff plus partners, doing stuff in the day, spending the night in a local motel, but as Northland will be in Red or Orange, and I know of at least 1 unvaxxed staff member and at least 2 unvaxxed partners, we have had to cancel.
That aint helpful for business.
Looking forward to telling parents for the year 8 grad that they have to be vaxxed for the dinner event. No need to cancel, make your vax choice and live (possibly die) with it
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@machpants cmon mate.... you can die either way. yet they most likely wont.
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So reports out of UK of a new variant - nu. Originally emerged in Botswana. There have been few cases so far but it apparently has lots on mutations especially to the protein spike. Fears this may make it invulnerable to current vaccines.
Merry Xmas....
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So reports out of UK of a new variant - nu. Originally emerged in Botswana. There have been few cases so far but it apparently has lots on mutations especially to the protein spike. Fears this may make it invulnerable to current vaccines.
Merry Xmas....
And a happy Nu year!
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After months of demand exceeding supply by tens of thousands, everyone who was in the queue got their MIQ vouchers after self-isolation was announced:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/127103932/everyone-in-queue-gets-through-first-miq-virtual-lobby-since-border-announcementThe human cost (unvaccinated):
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/127100003/auckland-rugby-league-referee-and-real-character-dies-from-covid19And people who are having issues getting their vaccination passes via the website and phone can go to a pharmacy:
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Yay! I get to see my daughter in a few weeks! She left for NZ as an innocent 16-year-old to go to high school. She comes back for a few month as an 18-year-old just about to enter uni going on about LGBQ etc lack of rights in Japan
After struggling with MIQ and all the BS with border restrictions, it is a relief. She comes back to Japan where COVID rates are lower in real numbers than NZ but with a population of 125 million (maybe dodgy stat. cos they only test symptomatic cases.....). Almost 0 cases in Tochigi Prefecture (where we live) for quite a while. It has been frustrating to say the least. -
@old-samurai-jack said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Yay! I get to see my daughter in a few weeks! She left for NZ as an innocent 16-year-old to go to high school. She comes back for a few month as an 18-year-old just about to enter uni going on about LGBQ etc lack of rights in Japan
After struggling with MIQ and all the BS with border restrictions, it is a relief. She comes back to Japan where COVID rates are lower in real numbers than NZ but with a population of 125 million (maybe dodgy stat. cos they only test symptomatic cases.....). Almost 0 cases in Tochigi Prefecture (where we live) for quite a while. It has been frustrating to say the least.i am going to love all these stories happening over the next little while
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Two important tweaks of Red noted today in the press conference - unvaccinated limit at events and gatherings will be 25, up from 10, and public indoor facility limits e.g. gyms will 1 per square metre rather than a specific limit.
it's so easy to keep track of, eh.
Honestly, I'm pretty confused still. Seems very high level, with weird details in some areas but not others. Still, not planning to go to the pub until after my christmas holiday, so will figure it out when needed.
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Two important tweaks of Red noted today in the press conference - unvaccinated limit at events and gatherings will be 25, up from 10, and public indoor facility limits e.g. gyms will 1 per square metre rather than a specific limit.
it's so easy to keep track of, eh.
Honestly, I'm pretty confused still. Seems very high level, with weird details in some areas but not others. Still, not planning to go to the pub until after my christmas holiday, so will figure it out when needed.
Practically, if someone is double vaccinated and carries the vaccination pass, just turn up and scan if requested - any other issues are for the businesses to know for their own situation. Capacity limits might seem confusing if it's variable rather than set, but businesses should know their capacity because most commercial leases will include it as part of the basis of calculating the rent, and once they know, the actual number won't change for them thereafter. Harder to police though.
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